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Jul 16, 2002, 06:30 AM
I'm having a problem with my Hotline Client, it keeps crashing my Mac once it's been running for a few minutes. I'm currently running Hotline Client 1.8.5 on a G3 IMac with OS 9.0.4. Does anyone have any advice.
Do I need to upgrade the OS?
Jul 16, 2002, 12:44 PM
Upgrading may help. I had all kinds of freezes and odd behavior with earlier versions of OS 9. Once I started using 9.2.1, things worked MUCH better. I tried to upgrade that once, and it was back to the same old routine. OS 9 has never been "rock-solid" like OS 8.6 that shipped with this G4 (a Yikes! G4, the first G4 that Apple produced). Because of the lack of features, I had to upgrade 8.6 to whatever version of 9 that would work for me.
I'd like to edit this post to clarify something that I missed earlier (without adding a brand new post to win a winky button like some members of the board-see the post below for an example). Hardware can make a HUGE difference in how things run on your computer. Everyone's computer is a little different.
I'm not trying to say that OS 9 sucks. Not at all. It's great for the most part. I do know that most versions of it run like hell on a Yikes! G4. At least it does on my Yikes! G4.
These machines were produced during a time that computer parts were hard to come by and very expensive. During that time late in 1999, a huge earthquake rocked the area of Asia that supplies parts to Apple. Apple decided to release the first G4 chips on a G3 motherboard. Only a few hundred of these were manufactured. For some reason, most versions of OS 9 don't run well on this machine. With or without Hotline. I can't even install the original release of OS X. It won't turn on my monitor when booting from the install disc, and I do have the original Apple supplied graphics card. Later versions may work, but I haven't come across it yet to give it a shot.
As I stated above, upgrading may help. It definitely has nothing to do with the server you've connected to. That server has several visitors a day, and rarely goes down. You connected to it with a PC client and were able to download files without any problems.
Jul 16, 2002, 02:13 PM
I am running Os 9.1 and hotline 1.8.5 never have any problems
Jul 16, 2002, 11:45 PM
According to the previous post, it cannot be possible for anyone on any type of Mac to have any problems using OS 9.1 and HL 1.8.5.
Unless, of course, someone is attempting to gain "Veteran" status by giving totally useless information to the person in need of some relevant knowledge (<---key word-KNOWLEDGE) to solve their problem. Check the "Search" button and you'll see what I'm getting at.
Here's the proof for my accusation: ***********.cdrom-guide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136548.
After reviewing the first page of his posts, there isn't ONE post that has any useful technical information. NOT ONE! ZERO! Go ahead and check it if you don't believe me. It's all RUBBISH and idle chat. There was NOTHING that actually helped someone fix a real problem. Isn't helping others fix their problems and answering their questions what this board was set up for?
What a shame we don't have some checks and balances to prevent this on the board. It would be great if a mod had to verify that a post is worthy of being accepted toward the grand total of posts based on whether or not it could possibly help a person solve a real problem.
I don't have a problem with occassional chat. Chat is great, but it shouldn't count toward someone being a "Veteran" just because they type CRAP several times a day for many months on end. Things like, "I burn mp3 cds regularly never have any probs" should not count for anything. In my opinion, that should count as a negative post for wasting our time reading it. That didn't help VolnTitan with the problem at all. It just helped accumulate more posts to advance the user status.
If you agree with me, please speak up. Their are MANY incredibly gifted people in this forum. I learned a lot from them when I was new to Macs a few years ago. Just read the posts in here and you'll see. Why should utter nonsense be tolerated?
Maybe I'll be suspended or banned for this, but someone had to say it.
Jul 17, 2002, 01:09 AM
I agree that there r many useless post in this forum & any other forums u go to! It's a given! U will always have someone that needs that title for their ego!
It's like the kid that needs to join the local fire company so he has all the pagers & scanners strapped to his belt to look & feel important! But u look at him & think - what a freakin dork!
What I can't understand is what is the big deal about post count/status? What purpose does it actually serve? Do we win a winky button w/ gaining status? What benefit does it really have? If someone gave advise on something -would u not take it seriously if they were a newbie? I don't think so! I've seen high ranked peeps become rippers! I've seen new peeps w/ ranks as high as some of the old ones! I've been on this board for over a year & a half <---- big whoopee doo! :hdspin: Does the point that I'm a veteran make me more important or more believable than a newbie?
A joined date would be more beneficial than a status! It may even cut down on useless post! :zombie:
*****To answer the original question..******
I'm running 9.0.4 w/ hotline 1.8.4 on a G4. I don't seem to have really any problems w/ it. Maybe u need to down grade the Hotline to 1.8.4?? Try it
Or could be ur having some conflicts w/ something else on ur comp. Did it just start doing it? Did u add any new apps or devices to ur system?
Jul 17, 2002, 03:45 AM
I'll try hotline 1.8.4 if I can find it. MacInAction suggests I should install OS 9.2.1. from scratch, but I'll try any other possibilities first.
I'm new to Macs, and although I've had mine for a while, I hardly ever used it, but I'm soon to be moving and the only computer to be going with me will be my lovely looking Mac.
I've only just started using hotline and hotline is the only piece of software that has ever crashed my Mac, in fact, It's the only time it has ever crashed. I hardly have any software on it at all, and the hardware is as it was when I bought it new.
Jul 17, 2002, 08:03 AM
Well, fingers crossed, I've installed Hotline 1.8.4 as buzz-buzz suggested and it has been running now alot longer than it ever has without crashing, so it looks like thats the solution. And the lesson I've learnt is, do not use Hotline 1.8.5, use 1.8.4 on OS 9.0.4.
Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.
Jul 17, 2002, 10:31 AM
How many extensions do you have running? If you have most of them turned on, you may want to start turning off some of the ones that aren't needed. Just be sure to duplicate the set before you start doing that. Turn off 2-3 at a time, and then restart to see what happens. Then be sure your apps and internet connection works correctly.
Hopefully the downgrade worked, but if it didn't I'd try experimenting with the extensions next. Reinstalling the OS is only a last resort to consider if you have a newer OS at your disposal.