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VLC Feb 02, 2002, 08:55 PM THIS IS MAINLY ABOUT THE PAGE LOADING TIME LAG
We all know that ISDN connection is too expensive, so I wondered what cheap alternatives there were.
Like a collection of small improvements would improve web-surfing performance overall.
Like one thing i noted is that fancy anti-virual software like PC-CILIN, slows down page transferal speed if you activate all its WWW viral guards. :(
So if anybody else here has any further speed-up tips, post them below so all members can benefit...
[If i can think of anymore i'll add them]
RSVP
Thanks :)
kyle5077 Feb 02, 2002, 09:24 PM What connection u talkin bout??? 56K?
duffy90210 Feb 03, 2002, 01:48 AM Like one thing i noted is that fancy anti-virual software like PC-CILIN, slows down page transferal speed if you activate all its WWW viral guards.
Sure its going to slow down the transfer speed, you are asking it to check everything coming throught your connection, like when you go to the airport, and they body search everyone, to make sure that nobody is carrying any weapons onto planes, you will see a long queue, but at least you know its safe to fly.
VLC Feb 04, 2002, 11:55 PM Originally posted by kyle5077
What connection u talkin bout??? 56K?
I'm talking 56k as that most used these days.
An what i said about pc-cilin is important coz most virus' arnt transported via online signaling so you neednt bother with its web-trap facility an similar versions elsewhere.
after all, the web is pretty enough slow without more slowdowns added on! :(
Jaice Feb 05, 2002, 11:37 PM Get Cable or DSL
VLC Feb 11, 2002, 11:56 PM Originally posted by Jaice
Get Cable or DSL
Does he mean optic cable? if so, thats my phone companys job not mine!
An isnt DSL currently expensive, an unavailable in many places?
I was looking for simple cost-effective measures.
like what about modem cards with Flex technology, i recommend it an its cheap:)
Heeled Feb 12, 2002, 01:01 AM Try this site out for info on modem and system tweaking:
http://speedguide.net/
I will say though I did basically evrything they said to do and really didn't notice a difference. 56k is capped to max out at about 53,000bps so there's not a whole lot you can do. I used to get about 42,000bps in a town of less than 2000 people with a phone company switch about a mile from my house. DSL/cable will be everywhere soon and modems will be obsolete. I understand your frustration though being that I was on a 56k for the first 4 years I had my puter, however, for the last month I've been on DSL. I'll never look back.
ElaineM Feb 12, 2002, 01:14 AM You are not going to see any noticeable improvement in speed with any modems or tweaks on 56k. I would recommend looking into broadband providers in your area. If you are paying 20 a month for 56k, 50 a month for broadband is a bargain IMHO since it is SO much faster. Once you have it, you will never want to be without it again.
VLC Feb 17, 2002, 10:59 PM Originally posted by ElaineM
You are not going to see any noticeable improvement in speed with any modems or tweaks on 56k.
If thats true then what about 'browser settings' - surely theres something within mine that would speedup matters?:(
??
ps- its nice to see a woman in this place :)
Heeled Feb 18, 2002, 02:07 AM You're just not going to notice any improvement with a 56k. Check your connection speed. If you're getting anything over 40,000 bps then you're doing pretty good. Only way you're going to see a difference is by upgrading. I've got DSL now for $39 a month for 6 months. Compare that to like AOL that charges like $23 or so a month. Not to mention my DSL service is Linux compatible so I have found my calling and will never, EVER, go back.
shazco Feb 18, 2002, 06:38 PM basically your at the mercy of tje phone company...i have no ADSL or ISDN.no cable...satellite cost about $900-set-up..then they want $60-
aus dollar. dial-up is all we have ..so depending on telstra i acn run at
49'900 bps but at the moment i am running at 31,900 bps..it's out of my hands...your ISP has some control with BROADBAND but it boils down to
moneyyyyyyyy.cotrling profits etc: etc:;
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VLC Feb 24, 2002, 08:28 PM Originally posted by Heeled
You're just not going to notice any improvement with a 56k.
speak for your self!
my tinkering an research has blessed me with a few speedups an at NO cost!
for example i found that proxies cause slowdowns, whereas a firewall does not.
im also surprised no one here thought to mention that in this topic before!
so you see, one can make things better by trial an testing> :)
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Heeled Feb 24, 2002, 08:58 PM Ok well if it worked for you then bonus. What are you basing the improvements on? D/l speed, page load time, kbps difference from before? I know when I used my modem my isp had about 50 different numbers I could use to connect. Some got me on at about 30,000kbps and others got me on at 45,000. It just all depends.
merlin_the_magician Feb 26, 2002, 06:30 AM I moved last summer and at that moment, i decided this was a nice oppurtunity to spoil myself a little and get ISDN. I have been using ISDN for few months now, and i must say it's quite an improovement compared to 56k.
What i did notice however, is that the provider WorldOnline (Tiscali) i have been using ever since i had a modem, was teribly slow compared to the connection speed i got at my old house even when using ISDN. Connection speed of 3-5 kbps was even slower than 56k. Go figure.... I live in a city in the Netherlands with about 35.000 people, but it seemed like everyone was on Tiscali here.
I have been looking around for a while, and found a new provider, guess what connection speed is somewehere between 8 and 17 kbps!
Over here DSL and cable are not available (yet). Should be in about 1 year. However, coasts are very high.
Of course i agree with ElaineM, spending €50,- on DSL or cable is a bargain compared to €20,- on dail up.
Never wurry about the cost, never wurry about connection speed, never mind numerous downloads or uploads, never mind outrageously large downloads... Nevertheless, unless you spend several hours a day on the internet every day, i think €50,- is just to much!
€50*12=€600 a year for DSL? ... i don't think so...
To get a grip on the cost you can also do something else: i use a "flat-fee" connection. I pay €14,- for 20 hours of unlimited access to a free dail-up connection. When these hours are used, i can not connect anymore, and i will need to make a connection through a normal dail up, at the regular local telephone cost of €0.01 a minute. Works fine for me.
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VLC Mar 03, 2002, 09:34 PM Originally posted by Heeled
What are you basing the improvements on? D/l speed, page load time, kbps difference from before?
Obviously im talking about 'page load time' as thats what most surfers complain about since the internet became popular, although its connected to what your actual setup is, so everything else relates to this.
Any way, thanks for contributing, as i forgot about dial-up options, an know that my 1st was 33k an my latest is 56k, an all because i selected a dedicated phone-line connection than the standard one from the choices offered by my ISP. :)
PS- an it didnt cost me anything - unlike the asdl/isdn etc mentioned previously:)
Heeled Mar 04, 2002, 02:52 AM Hey no problem. I just remember endless hours trying to speed up my dial up and getting frustrated so I know what you are going through.
aligibbs Mar 04, 2002, 08:31 AM Use Getright to mutli connect to one server...
Gallaeglagh Mar 04, 2002, 02:36 PM There are some other things to consider. While it seems tough to measure some browsers work better on some pages than others. It seems Opera is the fastest browser overall. Go into your internet options and you can change some settings about page loading [always reload, never and so forth]. Back when I was on dialup there were a few sites I visited often that I knew were slow to load. I use to keep a directory on my desktop with saved pages from those sites. Sometimes on forums that have a heavy load on the server use the right mouse button to open a discussion so you don't need to redownload the main page.
Jaice Mar 04, 2002, 11:58 PM Speeding up a 56k modem is basicly imposible, I it download file at 56kbps, people would't have a need for DSL or Cable. At first, you might think that 40$ a month is too high for an ISP, but when you exprence it, you get it.
VLC Mar 10, 2002, 08:03 PM Originally posted by aligibbs
Use Getright to mutli connect to one server...
Isnt this guy talking about downloading only, coz thats only half the story here.
in any case 'download accelerator' does this also - maybe better!
Incidently some ISPs that offer multiple connection packages have it that if you use 'pre-pay' @ 9.99, instead of 'pay-as-you-go', you get a faster connection!
-which is a better deal than paying the more expensive ASDL option which is priced @ 40-50!
VLC Mar 18, 2002, 08:58 PM Good news - i've found that if you clear out the many uneeded cookies in the their windows folder, surf time improves very well. :)
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VLC Mar 27, 2002, 09:21 AM I just saw a posting elsewhere here, that also helps out in this topic as well !
See, if you add a popup-advert blocker to your browser surf time improves because-
firstly, you dont have to keep wasting time in closing unneeded windows, but more importantly,
while the popups are loading, theyre using your signal reception time, which crowds out the legitimate signal you want receieved an loaded.
clever hey??????:)
supersrbin Mar 27, 2002, 11:44 AM Yea, I've had cable from AT&T and they have worked flawlessly, the tell you when outages will occur and everything!
ShIfTeR101 Mar 27, 2002, 06:08 PM VLC I am also stuck with a slow 56kbps connection with no chance of getting cable/dsl.
Can you list the things that you have done tp speed up your connection for faster page loading either in here or email me please. Also I would like to know where I can get a "free" pop up adverts blocker.
Thanks
Matt
DMC-Chan Mar 27, 2002, 06:12 PM Yeah...I was gonna ask. I think I did something bad. My page load time takes a lot longer now. :(
DMC-Chan Mar 27, 2002, 09:00 PM I thought I'd share these sites. Might help.
http://www.optimizing.net/
http://www.56k.com/inits/a2z.shtml - for drivers
kjchoops Mar 27, 2002, 11:11 PM www.download.com
search popup and there are a few downloads of popup killers
VLC Mar 31, 2002, 09:01 PM Originally posted by ShIfTeR101
VLC I am also stuck with a slow 56kbps connection with no chance of getting cable/dsl. Can you list the things that you have done tp speed up your connection
Yeh boss, just read all the stuff i found recently an wrote above, plus a few other members ideas, although its mainly been me thats provided soloutions.:(
ps- i also use 'popupstopper' via http://www.popupstopper.net
LiLViEtDuDe917 Apr 01, 2002, 12:40 AM I used to have 56k. I download files up to 6 kb per second. I think that that was fast.
seracca Apr 01, 2002, 03:57 AM One of the best things you can do to help your connection speed (and it costs nothing) is to make sure all of the contacts in the phone jacks in your house are clean. A corroded contact on a jack that does not even have a phone connected can create "noise" on the line which wll slow you down drastically.
I know this from personal experience, and even isolated a jack that had clean contacts, but was somehow defective in the internal wiring in it. It appeared ok, and phones worked fine on it, but as soon as I replaced it my connection speed troubles were over.
An easy way to tell if there is noise on your line without any testing equipment is to pick up the phone and dial any single digit (other than 0) and just listen. Any pops or hiss or static that yopu can hear will cause you grief and you will never get e fast connection!
Helped a friend with his connection troubles when we discovered that an old phone in his daughters room was slowing him down just by being plugged into the circuits.
Just make sure that you put any wires you disconnect for cleaning back the way you found them. :laugh:
And for Shifter101, Pop Up Stopper is free and works very good. http://www.panicware.com/product_dpps.html
OvAZ kLocKz Apr 02, 2002, 04:15 AM go to TOOLS/INTERNET OPTIONS/ADVANCE/MULTIMEDIA and unclick everything, page load faster cause it dont have to load the picture from website.. and when i want to see a picture, i right click and go to "show picture" you might now like how the page will look with no pic. off but for me,it doesnt matter....
big-homsey Apr 02, 2002, 05:57 AM im with freeserve and i usually connect at 50667 i dont know if your isp makes any diff
VLC Apr 07, 2002, 08:08 PM that stuff by seracca above was damn interesting, however....
Originally posted by big-homsey
im with freeserve and i usually connect at 50667 i dont know if your isp makes any diff
Incidently AOL's new upgrade ver 7.0 reduces conn time from 56k to 46k now, :(
- an for a flat rate of 9.99
any one here know of a faster isp connection for that money.?
Heeled Apr 07, 2002, 09:49 PM I just wanted to share something with you guys that are going to use pop-up blockers. Yes I believe they are a good thing but they can have a downside. Now the downside depends on what type of internet person you are. I'll give an example.
I currently work for an airline and of course we offer the chance for customers to buy tickets online. A portion of our site, once clicked, will bring up a pop-up box to input your travel information. Now mind you this is only on a very particular part of the site.
So if you guys use this it may block some boxes you may need to see. Just letting you know.
ShIfTeR101 Apr 07, 2002, 09:52 PM its ok though cos you can set the pop up blocker to play a sound when the pop up is activated so if you click something and nothing happens when it should and you hear a sound just click the easy to find button to ture the blocker off.
:)
Matt
VLC Apr 16, 2002, 08:29 PM All true!
an if a page dont show up when it should theres always a key combo that bypasses the blockage:)
also, for some more help here - i noticed this time saver-
if you adjust your browser settings/prefs to ignore fancy java scripts, auto video/audio playback, animations, posh applets, flash plugins etc, an dont 'dither' image showings, you'll get quicker page transition time.
After all, you dont really need any of those add-on time wasters to take up your computers processing power an modem reception time, as most use the web to see pics, download progs, read news, or email, but not indulge in drooling over fancy hi-spec graphics etc.
coolcrap23 Apr 16, 2002, 10:17 PM damn....i've got a Cable Connection...1.3mbps for only $35 a month...it's GREAT! I got it through Charter Communications it's in the US (where I live)...lol
VLC Apr 24, 2002, 10:50 AM IVE NOTED ONE FINAL TIME SAVING-
I heard that a pc o/s includes program codes that hook into the system while your'e online, thinking your'e part of a LAN etc, when in fact you may not be, like most surfers. So these 'hooks' end up adding delay to your browsing while they try to integrate themselves with your non-existant company network protocols!:(
There are some small programs out there on the web that can eradicate these unneeded conections, but as i dont know what theyre called i wouldnt know by name to search for them:(
any offers?.....? :hdspin:
thats me all done here, cant think of any more tips as yet.
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VLC May 01, 2002, 11:43 AM Hey - just noticed a mistake i made that you might have-
If you setup your modem as a default/standard type without its speed mentioned, then the isp uses a basic speed with it.
But if you setup a specific speed modem, eg 56k-flex, then the isp uses that transferal speed for connection, not a lower setting!
So note that a 56k rate you may not get unless you set it that way as the default modem, within windows settings.:)
hollie.weimeraner May 06, 2002, 03:14 AM I use 56k and noticed a major reduction in connection speed for no reason. (used to connect at about 45000 but was only connecting at between 14000 and 28000). I tried adjusting just about everything and eventually rang BT. It turns out they had turned down the gain on my line while carrying out some maintenance. They have increased the gain and hey presto i'm connecting at 45000 again! If your in the UK ring 151 and ask for them to check the line. Tell them your having trouble with net connection speed and they should look at your gain settings. I'm told that i am now set at 4 from 2.
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