http://www.ps2cover.com/cover.htm

wonder if this is for real - looks interesting

looks good!! but is it real??

dunno - they show a receipt of sale for a mold company to manufacture them.

guess time will tell

Yeah, I read about it on ps2ownz website and they are the ones who started the development of those flip tops.

how does it work?

Wonder how much it would cost, also it says v1-v3. I wonder if that means the motherboard version?

If it is true, we just have to consider the cost of the conversion and the Swap Magic disc. If it works, then no need for modchips, if it tricks PS2 into "ejecting" with flip top without the machine thinking it's been ejected.

Hopefully the cost of the "flip top" mod + swap magic is less than a noswap chip + install. Then it would be excellent.

Your kidding right? Its says $7 US wholesale so about $15 US from the cheapest supplier on the web. If this is for real all I can say is "WOW", and how do i go about installing this gizmo, hope someone veifies this soon.

Bleepster, got to give it ya on a plate mate! what a load of crap!! LOL...

If you look at the top open piccy you'll still see the little metal plate stuck in with a bit of white sticky paper as you would on a original PS2 top. This metal plate is for the expansion bay screws...

You can even see where they've rubbed down the numbers on the memory card ports.. and even see where they've hacksawed along the ridge in the front of the PS2..

The receipt says Cub Foods on it and includes ' complimentory phone calls ' on it!!

and why oh why would you have brass hinges on an all plastic moulding?

I've got to admit its a good idea to have a flip lid to swap the disc but... sorry I'm not convinced about this site at all.. Just my opinion mate.;)

If its for real then I will take my comments back and give the owners of the site a pat on the back. Just can't see it.... Why spend $6000 dollars on a tooling then allow you to download the plans... don't make sense to me...

Mike ( Spagboll ) ... :)

damn, heh.......guess we just have to see. It's a nice idea though.

I think he built the prototype and is wiring $$ to China to have someone manufacture it. The pics are the ones he made, not machined.

Anyhow, new ideas are always cool.

How about lets discuss in theory, would this work? Can you do a swap with the cover completely off? Say I have no cover at all on my PS2. How about the cover on the Laser Assembly, can that be removed easily?

good point on the laser assembly. if it looked anything like the psone in there, then there might be a chance of this working, but my guess is that it won't.

You know, my friend did this to his system...not this particular way, but with flexiglass instead(more sturdy than plexiglass. All he did was measure the drive(which I think was like 5"x 5"), screwed in some metal hinges, then glued the flexiglass with some type of glue that came with the flexiglass itself...he was selling this process at my college for like 15 bucks...but I don't know if it's reliable though...I mean, the heat from the system itself could possibly melt the glue and + hot glued leaking into system = bad ****...

So, his system does work? I guess the cover on top of the laser assembly just comes off with couple screws?
Well, the glue stuff being aside, once it's manufactured (if it works) there would be no problems of that.

The only thing is the cover on top of the laser assembly, that I can think off. I don't want to bother taking apart my ps2 just to look. Maybe you can ask your friend if the cover for the laser is easy to remove, therefore exposing the disc so we can do a swap

wtf? this sounds like bullshit. put that new top on, and guess what would happen.... it would open and you would be starring at a plastic cover for the cdrom. let me guess you take that out?

That's why I am trying to ask BIGWORM to see if his friend can shed some light on how to remove that cover to expose the laser and tray. If that's a simple process like removing couple screws etc.

There are 4 little screws that hold the top plastic cover of the drive on. Once that is removed, you can see the whole disc on the tray.

I doubt there is any validity to this. I mean what are you supposed to do? ...the old PSX swap trick. The PS2 spins discs a lot faster than the PSX...sounds like a lot of ppl getting burnt fingers to me. lol
And you see the white thing on the top of that case? It holds the cd/dvd down onto the platten/spindle hub. If the disc is spinning and you open it, the disc would fly off of there so quick it could put an eye out.

Unless swap magic totally stops the disc this is hella-dumb, but I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade...if it works, great, but i'll just stick to soldering which is easy for me and proven to work.

OK guys.....I can settle this....:
YES, the Swap Magic discs DO stop spinning totally when it is time to swap (so does a gameshark 1.7 and up). I have tested this hundreds of times by having my PS2 apart back in the old days (it is called the LH swap). Back then we used to play all the backups with the PS2 lids off! Then we would boot the Gameshark (1.0 thru 1.3 back then) then wait for it to stop spinning, swap the discs from the top, put the tray cover back on and press 'x'.
So, my point being that this is the same as having the cover off, except that there is a manufastured 'hole' for you to remove your disc through. And YES this will work fine, since it will have the same funcionability as the knife-trick (and the 72min TOC limit too). Of course, with the Swap Magic discs you won't even need DVD-rips, because booting DVDR is so easy.
All you should have to do is remove your old top, remove your tray assembly top, then install the new 'flip-top' lid.
Sounds like a good idea to me, IF and only IF you don't mind swapping discs. So it is not for EVERYONE, but a good idea indeed! I may be interested just because they plan on making these in different colors, which hasn't been offered before (except to JAP PS2's).
So, there you have it.............Hope this clears this up for you guys.

and only $7.00 gotta get me one of these.

must be a beeach to install!

Sweet, thanks Discwizard. This would be a good option for some of my friends that don't want to pay a lot for a modchip&install, but dont mind swapping.

Just have to wait for a good production unit

Actually, OINGO, I think they would be VERY easy to install. You would unscrew the 8 screws on the bottom of your PS2, (10 for ver 1-3) then the 4 tiny screws on the tray assembly lid. Then just pop in the eject/power button assembly and you're done!
Would be VERY easy to ANYBODY to do who has put in a no solder mod, or even just taken off their lid before.

Man, sounds like this would be an excellent "mod" if it gets going.

I will order one as soon as they are available, and test it out. I will post my results as soon as I 'play' with it awhile.

I still do the LH swap every day with my ps2 lid and dvd-drive lid off. I just load up the gameshark, stop it with my hand, pull the disc and the magnet off, and swap in the copied game. It works very well, I think. This cover would be very nice for people like me (though not necessary). I doubt it's a 'hoax,' why would they bother? It's just a cover for people who want to swap, and keep a cover on their ps2. I might get one, just so my machine doesn't look so ghetto.

the pictures on the site are prototype shots. I highly doubt they'll use brass hinges on the final product.

oh, and the receipt says Cub Foods because that's where the bank they sent the money from is located. There's banks in Cub Foods stores all around the country.

Rice: You are very skeptical for an uninformed person. OF COURSE you take the cd drive cover off, that's the point. You flip the lid (the cover holds the magnet) and the cd is now free to be removed.

barracuda: I use my fingers to stop a spinning gameshark disc every day. Needless to say, i've never burned my fingers.

KapriKorn31: Don't speculate unless you know what you're talking about. Of course this method works. How long have you been around?

lmao!

You're gonna have to break the warranty seal to put that on, so why not just get a chip??

i guess because chips are more expensive, and not everyone has the soldering ability/equipment.

also cant jack up your mo bo by puttin on a new case

Thanks for backing me up Ikebox9k on all the information you posted. The reason that not everybody belives this will work, is simply that no EVERYONE has been around the PS2 scene since the beginning, like you and I, and also that not everyone has seen the inside of the PS2 as often like you and I, and VERY few have knowledse of how the LH, or swap-trick works like you and I.
And, yes, everybody else's points are valid too......This thing coupled with a Swap Magic set/Gameshark/AR is an inexpensive, and very easy to install way for playing backups (especially if you have a DVD-R drive), and like I said before "This is not for EVERYBODY" The no-swap mods are still 'easier to boot up', this is just a simpler way.

any of you who are doubting this do not know zima very well. if it wasn't for him you would not be playing backups today because he was one of the pioneers of the ps2 modchip scene. i remember him making the homebrew sbox that was one of the first modchips for ps2. modchip manufactures send him their chips to have him test them when they are developing new chips. they sent him a swap magic disk to check out and that is when he decided that for $20 it would be a great alternative for people who don't have the ability to chip their ps2 or the $ for a messiah etc. if you don't mind swapping you can swap cdr and dvdr easily with no gameshark and doggle and no soldering just by changing the cover of your ps2. that sounds great to me. no more waiting for the gameshark to boot, no memory slot wasted with a doggle and since my sbox won't boot dvdr this will give me the ability to play them now.

Yup, Yup, agreeed with eamon7 and discwizard. I already have a noswap,but I want to get this for a friend that thinks $140 for mod and install is a bit much.

Just hope they produce is soon!

cool

And I thought I was one of the only people left that remember seeing his unreal tournament disc fly across the room at blinding speeds.... lol. Props to Discwizard for mentioning Zima, he didn't get half the recognition he deserved. I had to pull my ps2 apart because chips didn't exist at the time for the ps2 and we used unreal for a swap disc since the GS2 wasn't out. I remember running switches to open and close the door and soldering a ps1 chip to my ps2. Needless to say that was on my first ps2.... RIP.....

I asked modchip.ca (who I have ordered from in the past and appears to be a reputable company) if this is for real. They are listed as a "reseller" on the ps2cover site. The response I received from modchip.ca is yes, it is a real product. That is all they told me and advised that I get on their mailing list if I want ed more information.

Rick

another thing to remember about zima is that he does not do this for financial gain. he doesn't sell chips ,swap disks and he won't be the one selling these ps2 cases either. why does he do it? for us! when he started out he was just a college kid that was outsmarting the programmers at sony. i think he loved the challenge of trying to figure out how to beat the copyprotection and make gaming affordable for all of us. it really was something to watch him and his cohorts slowly develop swapp methods and software for patches and programming chips. my v1 still has the hole in the side from the tray switch that was replaced with one of zima's homebrew sbox that was made from his recipie. oh my god i'm rambling. anyway this sounds like a greay alterantive to chipping and i thank anyone who is willing to help us all with this on-going quest.

http://smilies.uniquehardware.co.uk/otn/funny/xyxnervous.gif
Can this work with a V7pal???..iv got a v5 messiah but was thinkin of gettin another machine as well...Loxanna

Just because im paranoid dont mean their not after me!!!

it should because they have a pal version of the magic swap disk

Hi
Thankyou for all the positive comments for the PS2 flip top cover. I'm the the manufacturer of the PS2 cover.I don't have much news beside they are making the molds. I hope you guys will be patient, because molding take long time. I will bet anybody in the USA that if you take the PS2 cover and go to plastic molding company and ask them to make a flip top cover. They all said it will take between 2 to 3 months long to make. and it will cost around $40,000 to make each mold. The reason it takes a long time to make the molds because only one person can work on one mold at a time. Just like only one artist paint a picture. I will switch places with my partner(in China 2 weeks ago) in two weeks. I have to pay the balance amounts, check the products, and shipping to resellers. This will be bigger than modchips, I even have a V4 messiah chip installed by myself. You have to be very highly skillful solder to do those chip. Yes , the chip is better than flip top, but not easy to install by normal people and cost a lot more. If I try to chip 1000 ps2's, I couldn't finish in a week . On the other hand, I can ship out 1000 case+boot disk with no problem. That's why I think the flip top will do better than the chip ( in business wise). From Asian to Russia, Middle East to Africa .....have the rate of 95% software piracy. So the volume of using flip top and boot disks is enormous anywhere in the world. Sony already sold 20 milliion PS2 world wide. To make the story short, I'm not ripping off anyone because i'm not that stupid. These covers will produce too much money for me not to be real. If nothing goes wrong with the molds I should have the first batch in 2 weeks for US V1-V7.

First batch of 5000 units can be order at prices below. Once the cover is out the retail for each cover will be for retail at $30+ .

pre-order for reseller is $7 each +shipping
Pre-order for retail is $13+shipping


The reason for pre-ordering the cover is because I need money to finish molding for Pal and Japan. I take Paypal (thien63@yahoo.com) or checks..

Thien Vu
1801 winnetka ave N
Golden Valley MN 55427 USA
(612) 221-2395

Nice of you to post that information for us here-Thank You!

what do you have to do to install these? do you just need the boot discs?

There will be instructions soon. www.ps2case.com

Originally posted by auto1
There will be instructions soon. www.ps2case.com

well thats one way to make your ps2 look like a ps1
but my question is how is this better or cheaper than a no sodder mod, with the magic swap discs[which i have been told is the cdr disc is only 630 megs, which means you can't play ripped games] i know everyone wants full games, but with the price of a dvd burner, and you can buy a cdr for $1 and a dvdr cost $10 for apple, some games are better to have on dvdr i agree, but for the most part rips are fine with me.
a no sodder mod is $20 and the same for the swap discs, and your ps2 looks like a ps2, and both are available right now
on the other hand send you $13 now and hope to get something in the mail someday, plus buy the swap discs for $20, if i'm missing something feel free to lmk, because if this won't play 80 min cdrs than i can't see whats the good of this preorder product. maybe if you made a swap disc that would play 80 min cdrs, then you would have a winning product
please reply and post your comments here for all to see

just my oppinion i could be wrong ? [ but i don't think so!!]

sounds like a cool idea, for swappers, and of course its real.. but dont go calling zima a pioneer.
he's good with the news, always has been. He's got a good site for newbies and I have no doubt he's helped hundreds of people, he helps chip testers get chips from the makers and then they can report how they work.

but he didn't really pioneer anything. Paradox and static were reporting about the lh swap in their nfos quite a while ago. then neo had the first chip (neo1) which was simillar to the old psx chips... then the neo2 with the ea eject, and the 'safer' scea signal with capacitor. i'd say the pioneers were paradox with their patchers, neo, origa, and lastly messiah.

again, not trying to insult zima or his page..

Originally posted by GHOST RIDER 22


because if this won't play 80 min cdrs than i can't see whats the good of this preorder product.

The whole point of this product is so you don't have to mess around with knife swapping or anything. Load AR/GS, stops spinning, press the open button, stick in copied game. Easy peasy. It's more convenient than having to unlock the drive all the time

crazyguy

PS2 'Flip-Top' lid. Sounds like a good idea to me, IF you don't want to take any risk soldering the board, and if you don't mind swapping discs. So it is not for EVERYONE, but a good idea indeed! I may be interested just because they plan on making these in DIFFERENT COLORS, which hasn't been offered before (except JAP PS2's) and the price is not too bad for now.

Hey, pcroxton, that's what I said...LOL or did you just copy/past that?
It's almost word for word! Look on this page:

http://www.cdrom-guide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=206360&perpage=12&pagenumber=2
At the bottom of my post I said the same thing!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by crazyguy
[B]

The whole point of this product is so you don't have to mess around with knife swapping or anything. Load AR/GS, stops spinning, press the open button, stick in copied game. Easy peasy. It's more convenient than having to unlock the drive all the time

but how much does the game shark cost in the us? it costs $60 or $70 canadian not really sure, plus the $30 flip top, and it still won"t play dvd rips. or you could go with the flip top and swap disc, or a no sodder mod $20 and a swap disk $20 and it will work exactly the same.
what i'm tring to say is you need a fliptop and a magic swap disk,you can't play dvd rips and how does your playstation look? i would like for it to look like it's suposed too, so what is the advantage?
and i was asking for the maker to respond to this, you are wecome to make your opinion as well as me, but read my post before you make assumptions
and btw i don't know how thick headded some of you guys are, but if this product [if they make it and i don't see why they would] was made 2 years ago it would have been a great idea, when all you had was the knife trick.
but using a no sodder mod and a magic swap disc [ if the discs work] will do the same thing, without affecting the apperance of your ps2.
it's a no brainer to me, don't anyone aggree?
anyways if the maker can tell me something about this that i'm not seeing, feel free to respond. i like to see new ideas, but this on was 2 years too late. sorry
i really don't care i have a neo 4 that works just fine, so good luck sodder haters

Check this one out: one boot disc will play ps1, ps2 (cdr, dvdr)

http://www.bootdiscworld.co.uk/playstation2.htm

Hi.

1) dvdr cost $1 , ( it's cheap enough that you don't need to rips)
2) no solder mod ( you still have to solder 1 wire+ buy equiments)
3) No swap modchip always better than fliptopPS2+magic disks, but cost more.
4) fliptop+ Magic is aim for simple swap, even better deal when one buy a package deal ($40).
5) Only one swap for DVDR.
6) The fliptop hasn't come out yet, already the chip are dropping price
$19 for NEO, $39 including shipping for magic 2 at evolutionmods.com

Anyway , everybody should decide which methods is works best for them. The flip top is just another alternate method.

PS. I need somebody in UK to see if this site is for real or not. They claim that they have a boot disc can play PS1, PS2(cd), and PS2(DVDr).
w w w . bootdiscworld . co . uk

That link gets posted here a lot! But I am unsure as whether or not somebody has actually TRIED one. Would be nice to get a review of that disc! Anybody willing to try it out?

I think this is a fair request, since I was the one who went out on a limb and purchased the Swap Magic boot discs when everybody was doubting them, then posted a review here.....remember that? Also give props to keithscat on this, since he also posted that they worked on the same day, with a review of his own, and positive results. Not sure who posted first, but between he and I, we have pretty much covered all the bases on Swap Magic, and it's capabilities. So, please, ANYBODY who has this, or tried this bootdisc from Bootdiscworld, post results as soon as possible-THANX!

7) The flip top comes in 4 colors: black,clear,chrome,blue or any color you desire.
8) One of the best and clear advantage ( over all modchips) to have flip top PS2. One day your eject button doesn't works anymore, or fry the motor. Who 's you gonna call ?

the boot disc from bootdiscworld . co . uk is a FAKE. Don't waste your money. this is from the man Z himself. " if you do a search on the forums you'll find several threads where people from here ordered them and when they arrived they were a burned CD with instructions of how to COG/KNiFE/LH Swap to play your patched back-ups. The same information can be found on our Web site FREE of charge! If you want the disc, search Kazaa for "PS2 Boot Disc" and you should find an iSO of it I'm sure, but again it is a HOAX to make money and absolutely nothing but a waste of time.

If you don't believe me on this, ask anyone else whom you trust and they will tell you the same (Charlie_PS2, Go-Kun, any forum member who has been around etc.) "

this does sound interesting, definately.
only one thing comes to mind that could throw a spanner in the works.
isnt the ps2 laser notoriously poor/unreliable.
i myself have already forked out £50 for a replacement and have seen a forum full of others in the same boat, cant remeber the url though, maybe i'll check google later.
this is designed to be an internal component, i fear that frequent exposure to dust could kill it off pretty quickly.
i read that a few peeps on here have swapped with their cases off but this hasnt been tested on a large scale.

just some thoughts
no flaming please

Originally posted by GHOST RIDER 22
and i was asking for the maker to respond to this, you are wecome to make your opinion as well as me, but read my post before you make assumptions
[/B]

Errrm, what assumption did I make? I was only commenting on the fact that the flip top is just to make disc swapping easier. You wouldn't need this really if you had a no-swap modchip. Like the creator said, everybody has their own setup, and in my opinion (and I'm sure most others ould agree) this is just something to make disc swapping a lot easier. It's not supposed to be a magical new boot method to play 80 min discs or anything. And why do you keep saying GS can't play DVD rips, when it can? I have an AR that I play DVD rips with all the time. Also, I thought it was impossible for anybody to make an original 80 min pressed CD, since Sony's CD mastering software only allows 74 min doesn't it?

crazyguy

auto1 I just wanted to take the chance and let you know that is a great idea making this case. If I didn't have a no swap chip already installed I might do it, heck I might do it anyway just cause it looks cool.

Originally posted by 420Geek
sounds like a cool idea, for swappers, and of course its real.. but dont go calling zima a pioneer.
he's good with the news, always has been. He's got a good site for newbies and I have no doubt he's helped hundreds of people, he helps chip testers get chips from the makers and then they can report how they work.

but he didn't really pioneer anything. Paradox and static were reporting about the lh swap in their nfos quite a while ago. then neo had the first chip (neo1) which was simillar to the old psx chips... then the neo2 with the ea eject, and the 'safer' scea signal with capacitor. i'd say the pioneers were paradox with their patchers, neo, origa, and lastly messiah.

again, not trying to insult zima or his page..


Not to say anything against you 420Geek, but Neo was not the 1st chip out. The first chip was from Modchip.com and was a beta chip. This was out almost 5 months before neo came out. I actually installed three of them and blew out a ps2 doing it so I know. i wish neo had made the first chip lol. Those who took the chance with modchip.com back in the day know what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by crazyguy


Errrm, what assumption did I make? I was only commenting on the fact that the flip top is just to make disc swapping easier. You wouldn't need this really if you had a no-swap modchip. Like the creator said, everybody has their own setup, and in my opinion (and I'm sure most others ould agree) this is just something to make disc swapping a lot easier. It's not supposed to be a magical new boot method to play 80 min discs or anything. And why do you keep saying GS can't play DVD rips, when it can? I have an AR that I play DVD rips with all the time. Also, I thought it was impossible for anybody to make an original 80 min pressed CD, since Sony's CD mastering software only allows 74 min doesn't it?

crazyguy

with a crack/fix/workaround, you can up the limit to 80

Big ups to WKD on Backburners whos original Post you plagurised..........TOP JOB!

well this whole thing sounds all good n' that...except..a tray is better then a flip lid:laugh: but this is good news for ppls without a chip...

-Konga123

when do these come out?

I want to get one in the clear blue color like the ones only released in Japan. What do you guys think I should get the 2 magic swap disks or a Game Shark? Advantages, disadvantages? I know that the Magic disks dont allow you to play PSOne game, does the Gameshark let you do that?

here is a flip top $26 comes out on dec 15
http://www.modchipkits.com/pages/ps2cover.htm

Yes, the GS does load a PSX game using the knife trick, I know, I done it. I cant afford a DVDR burner or the media for it, so I got board one day and tried it with a PSX copy when the wife wasnt arround, and I was supprised that it did work. Just pop in the GS disk, load it, wait for it to stop spinning (if you listen closely enough you can hear it spin-down), use the knife to move the cog, swap the cd's, push the tray back in, move the cog back to lock in the drive, and then press x, or whatever it is, and away you play.

Hmm.. Maybe it would be cheaper to get a GameShark rather than the Magic disks. Does the Gameshark boot PS2 CDR's and DVD'R too. ->I know it doesnt boot anything past the regular CD size, so no DVD rips or anything.

have seen ps2 flip lid this lid is not tacky and works really well
without chipping can get them from ingleston market .price
£25.00 fitted .not very hard to fit:tup: :tup: :beer: