Just as the subject says, im looking for one that will specifially load CD drives, I've complied several of my own and got some of bootdisk.com but none of them will work.

What is the difference bewteen a 486 and a pentium/II/III/IV or AMD Bootdisk with CD ROM Drive support. I would of thought that the command line in both config.sys and autoexec.bat would be the same for any x86 system....? I would of thought that as long as you have a cdrom driver .sys and mscdex.exe and the correct syntax in the config.sys and autoexec.bat it would work....?

Post your bootdisk details that are not working so people can offer help...:tup:

Smiffy

just a thought on the CD ROM Drive,is it conected to the IDE controller on the mobo or is it connected to a controller on the s/card. I seem to recall that some CDR's were connected this way, I had an AST Advantage 486 DX2/50 which was connected this way but luckily it had a boot disc and recovery CD that automated the process. :(

Smiffy

I think by s/card Smiffy280361 meant Sound Card and not SCSI card. Dam, I I had a 1X external Sony CDRom that had it's own card... I'm guessing it ain't one of those though.

PS2, if you needed a bootdisk that req SCSI support, then you should be posting info on what type of board you have, or what SCSI controller is onboard, without the info, its a wild goose chase.

As for card controller, you may have a CDROM card (such as a CR582/583), these require its own controller drivers, as they are non-standard IDE.

HTH

Originally posted by celtic_druid
I think by s/card Smiffy280361 meant Sound Card and not SCSI card. Dam, I I had a 1X external Sony CDRom that had it's own card... I'm guessing it ain't one of those though.

Yes sorry sound card was what I was implying, why has SCSI come into the reckoning.

Duffy90210, PS2 did'nt say whether IDE or SCSI,jspr57 was pointing out that the system could be SCSI based but I doubt it as ps2wiz is usually explicit in what he wants.

I had a 1X external Sony CDRom that had it's own card... Those were the days...:D

Smiffy

Just because it was a 486 doesn't mean it may have had SCSI. It's not like they just stopped using SCSI after everyone went to Pentiums. Any system could use SCSI. More likely he has an older CD-ROM that connected to a proprietary controller on the sound card. Those were not SCSI nor IDE.

ps2wiz, you need to post some details about what make\model the CD-ROM and the system is. Otherwise people are just guessing...

Yeah, I was also going to point out that I have a SCSI card and drives on my current system (XP 1800+) and that I never did on any of my 486 systems.

I guess the point was that they had all SCSI systems back then (no IDE on the mobo)?? Never seen or heard of one though.

Yes, those were the days, the caddy you had to put the CD in was pretty mad to... However when you think that you could now buy several (DVD) burners for the same price...

waiting for your details, PS2.....

Originally posted by celtic_druid
Yeah, I was also going to point out that I have a SCSI card and drives on my current system (XP 1800+) and that I never did on any of my 486 systems.

I guess the point was that they had all SCSI systems back then (no IDE on the mobo)?? Never seen or heard of one though.

Yes, those were the days, the caddy you had to put the CD in was pretty mad to... However when you think that you could now buy several (DVD) burners for the same price...

Too true, in 94-95ish I bought my first and only PC from Tempo here in the UK it was a 486 DX2/50mhz, 4mb Ram,270mb hdd,1mb ATI Graphics and....4x CD ROM drive, talk about a power user..:D I also remember paying the guy at Tempo £85 to upgrade the ram from 4-8mb so that I could play 7th guest without it stuttering or taking an age to load the cut scenes <Sigh>

Smiffy

Damn, 11 replys....in less then a day..

I don't see why this originated into a SCSI based comp, cuz it isnt...
And yes the CD-ROM perfectly works, I had it on a different comp.

Check out the Spec here:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/athome/classics/524cds_qs.html

The odd thing that I know about it is that it has only 1 IDE channel, the HD and the CD-ROM are both on it, which are on the mobo.

Thanks...

What model is the drive? Creative and some other drives required their own drivers. The common OAK driver wouldn't work.

No sure, thats all the inforation I have (the link).

Originally posted by ps2wiz
Damn, 11 replys....in less then a day..

I don't see why this originated into a SCSI based comp, cuz it isnt...
And yes the CD-ROM perfectly works, I had it on a different comp.

Check out the Spec here:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/athome/classics/524cds_qs.html

The odd thing that I know about it is that it has only 1 IDE channel, the HD and the CD-ROM are both on it, which are on the mobo.

Thanks...

If they are on the same IDE Channel then were not looking at a propietry card cd rom driver. I take it from your post that you've been through all the std boot discs with CD ROM support.....? Can HP/Compaq offer any help at all Lifetime toll-free hardware customer support 24 hours a day, 7 days a week by calling 1-800-345-1518 from your link,or have you got any dos/windows based diagnostics software which is able to interrogate the system?

Smiffy

Yeah I do I already ran some Ram checkers, HD checkers, etc.. all on Floppys...

I'd feel kinda ashamed callin them for such a old comp....lol

Originally posted by ps2wiz
Yeah I do I already ran some Ram checkers, HD checkers, etc.. all on Floppys...

I'd feel kinda ashamed callin them for such a old comp....lol

@ m8,the emphasis is on Lifetime :D

Smiffy

> I've been given a 486 which has no operating system. I have the Win 95 CD
> but cannot install it because I have no boot disk. If anyone has a copy or
> knows where I could get a copy of a 486 boot disk, or even perhaps how I
> would create one please let me know. I also have a new 466 Pentium, which I
> am using now to send this message.
>
> I've tried everything else so unless someone has some other solution I think
> this is my only avenue. The system has been upgraded to 32 Meg RAM, a 40X
> CD-ROM etc., so I feel it is worth saving.

If your Pentium uses Win95, too, you can create a bootdisk there and use
it. The only thing you'll have to add is the CD-ROM driver for your
CD-ROM drive in your 486. It must be added to the config.sys on the
boot-disk and mscdex.exe must be added to the autoexec.bat there. That's
all.

Ok, those are the basic cdrom drivers files/setup...
I think we already got past the fact that i know how to create that...we didn't discus it, but I would most people know me enough on here to think that..

And please delete one of your posts, you double posted..

Looking at the spec, as far as I can tell, it should be an IDE device,may be the drive is faulty, have you tried another CDROM ?

It is an ide device and yes the cdrom works ive tried it on a diferent system...

OMG! Finally I got it to work!!
Im afraid if I tell you how, I'll jinx it, lol..

Thanks for all your help!

And I spared my embaresmnet of calling Compaq for such a old comp, tech support never helps me anyways though, whatever they usually tell me I've tried, as is prabally the case with most of you.

Anyways thanks again to everyone that tryed to help, & for some reason every time I post a problem it originates into a muliple page thread...lol

Originally posted by ps2wiz
OMG! Finally I got it to work!!
Im afraid if I tell you how, I'll jinx it, lol..

Thanks for all your help!

And I spared my embaresmnet of calling Compaq for such a old comp, tech support never helps me anyways though, whatever they usually tell me I've tried, as is prabally the case with most of you.

Anyways thanks again to everyone that tryed to help, & for some reason every time I post a problem it originates into a muliple page thread...lol

Don't tell us.....:laugh: You put the floppy disc in the floppy drive:D :tup:

Smiffy

lol....
It involves something more complicated then that.....Turning on the Comp!!