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anou2
Apr 30, 2003, 09:54 AM
Hello folks, i hope you can shine some light on this for me please. If i was to copy my DVD collection would i just need pioneer 105 or would i need that and a dvd drive on the PC?

My system is
AMD 2100+
Asusas7333
Geforce 4200TI
44x CDrom drive
98SE

thanks for your time

PhilEnfield
Apr 30, 2003, 10:07 AM
You dont have to have both, but it is better if you have.

If you use the 105 for ripping, you will notice a definite slowdown, compared to your DVD-Rom drive, also you will be putting extra strain on your expensive burner, doing everything with it (i.e. reading/ripping & burning)
Also you wont be able to do "on-the-fly copies"

It's quite easy to have 3 optical drives (DVD-ROM,CDRW & DVDRW)

If you need help on how to install/configure them, just shout.

anou2
Apr 30, 2003, 10:21 AM
ok mate what would YOU recomend i do?

thank you for helping

celtic_druid
Apr 30, 2003, 11:52 AM
Pretty sure that he already recommended that you get a burner and a DVDRom.

rickster904
Apr 30, 2003, 01:04 PM
Agree with Phil. I use my DVD-ROM for ripping and burner for burning. You can get DVD-ROM for under $50 so it is definitely worth the small investment. For four drives and two IDE channels I have this setup.
HDD - primary master
CD - primary slave (the least used drive)
DVD Burner - secondary master
DVD ROM - secondary slave

I always rip to HDD first. For on the fly burning, it is probably better to swap the CD and DVD ROM so you're not just using the secodary channel.
Of course you can consdier adding an IDE controller card but that straightly your personal decision.

PhilEnfield
Apr 30, 2003, 01:37 PM
Yep it's all been said above.

My setup is as follows :

HDD - Primary Master
DVD-RW - Primary Slave
DVD-ROM - Secondary Master
CD-RW - Secondary Slave

AFAIK, there is no definitive setup, but as mentioned already, it's best to keep the DVD drives on seperate channels.

anou2
May 01, 2003, 03:28 AM
@Celtic Druid
I was meaning what does he think i should buy. Sorry should have made it clear.

Is it better to buy an external dvd player

celtic_druid
May 01, 2003, 04:17 AM
An external DVD player would only help you if you bought a DVD recoder. It isn't going to be much use with a 105... well other than being (hopefully) able to play the results so that you can watch them on a TV.

anou2
May 01, 2003, 04:44 AM
is it easy to install an internal dvd player?

celtic_druid
May 01, 2003, 04:57 AM
Internal DVD player? You mean a DVDRom? If so then, yes (at least from my point of view).

PhilEnfield
May 01, 2003, 06:15 AM
@ anou2

If you can hold a screwdriver (not the drink), you can do it .

Have a look here for some pretty pics :

http://www.buildeasypc.com/hw/howto/instdvd.htm

All you do is remove the case, snap out the front cover of the drive bay you want to use, slide in the drive and secure with 4 fixing screws.

Then there are 3 cables : power, IDE ribbon cable and an audio cable.
These just plug in (easy peasy). The ribbon and power cables will already exist and the audio cable should come with the drive.

Decide which channel you are putting it on ( Clue - HDD is always on Primary - Master), it's best to put it on the opposite channnel to your 105, set the jumper to master or slave, as appropriate.
Put it back together and power up. Windows should find new hardware and install it automatically ... no seperate drivers are needed.

Normally there will be installation instructions with the drive, but if you get stuck, just post back here, there are loads of experts around here ;)

anou2
May 01, 2003, 08:33 AM
Not to sure about it. Had the pc at the PcShop recently as i had the new AMD2100+ and motherboard fitted but they could only get it running at 1300GHZ. Then a mate from work fixed it in 10 mins by sorting the jumper switch.
If i add the dvdrom could it effect what was just sorted?

celtic_druid
May 01, 2003, 09:23 AM
A DVDRom has nothing to do with CPU multipliers, FSB or anything like that. I guess though that every time you rip open a PC case you risk something going wrong.

PhilEnfield
May 01, 2003, 10:10 AM
If you don't feel confident doing it yourself, get your local PC shop to do it.
It will take them literally 10 minutes, it's dead simple. If they quote you more than £15, to fit it, they are ripping you off.

The only thing I would say is, if you take this route, find a more reliable shop, than the one you used for your new mobo/processor, as it sounds as though they are not too clever ;)

anou2
May 01, 2003, 10:51 AM
no i dont thinkl they are mate. I will buy the dvdrom 1st and have a bash with the pics and diagrams you showed me.

Thanks for your help guys