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kwepmmnd May 04, 2003, 10:27 AM Hi, I have never overclocked anything before
can you give me beginners, detailed, step-by-step instructions on overclocking an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Processor?
THANKS!
gamehunter May 04, 2003, 10:52 AM Well, first off, I have the same cpu you have. I built my computer this past Christmas. I love this cpu. You need to have a motherboard that will support overclocking. I have an Asus A7V333. It's all done in the bios, and you need these features unlocked. Dell motherboards for instance, do not allow overclocking.
First off, if you're going to overclock that cpu, you need proper cooling. Plenty of fans and a big case are essential. You will also need a good heat sink, and Artic Silver 3. (paste) I use a copper heatsink with a 3 speed fan. (I keep it on medium) A power supply of at least 300 to 350 watts is also needed.
OK, the xp 2000 comes stock at 1.67 ghz. I have successfully overclocked it to 1.81 ghz without a problem. If I go higher than that, I experience lockups while gaming.
In the bios, you have to change the frequency. The defaults on my board were set at :
Freq. 133/33 Multiplyer: 12.5 V.core: 1.75
I have them set at:
Freq. 165/33 Multiplyer: 11.0 V.core: 1.85
You may not be able to get quite as high as me, because I had to alter the cpu to unlock the multiplyer :) (thats another long story)
If the multiplyer is locked at 12.5, just break out a calculator and come as close to my overclocked ghz as you can.
Keep in mind that if you try to overclock to high, you may corrupt your operating system and have to reinstall it. (happened to me when I first started :) The figures I gave you above should be very helpful to you.
Also, keep an eye on the temperature. I installed an I panel on my computer so I can watch the temperature. My cpu temp never goes above 49c. Thats with heavy gaming going on. My regular temp. runs around 46c.
Good luck and happy overclocking :)
littlejack May 04, 2003, 06:08 PM 1875mhz is the best i've seen on these chips (stable), not particularly good clockers, and as already said, these get very warm so extra cooling is a must
gamehunter May 04, 2003, 09:39 PM Well, I can tell you this much. AMD chips run a lot faster than what they are rated for. My 1.81 ghz, outperforms my 2.4 pentium. Not by much, but still thats pretty impressive.
ps2wiz May 04, 2003, 10:52 PM Just a note: If you can't afford to replace it, don't overclock. You can mess up your CPU, loose data, and curropt your bios.
Arc Ryeback May 05, 2003, 12:02 AM I highly suggest watercooling for MAD overclocking. Research and check out www.overclockers.com
Badidoh May 05, 2003, 12:43 AM well, he forgot a step
check the cpu
if it's a palomino or thoroughbred a/b
kwepmmnd May 05, 2003, 10:04 AM I can afford new parts if i burn them.
I can buy better cooling, my case currently has 6 fans, the processor has a heatsink, and cooling fan rated for up to 4.1 ghz.
I was hoping the get my Processor up to 2.0 ghz or higher.
Thanks gamehunter, ill try what you're doing.
I built this pc myself as well, except i did it about 2 weeks ago, thanks!
BigStan May 05, 2003, 11:53 AM I would worry about hard drive corruption over bios corruption. Hard drive corruption on some motherboards can occur with a high fsb of 160mhz or more......
I had a 2000xp palimino at 1.9Ghz (12.5*152), and it was locked, hence stuck with 12.5x. I had to up vcore to 1.92V on my motherboard to get that, and with a thermalright slk800 heatsink, and a quietish 80mm fan I was getting around 60c under full load, which isnt too bad......
Watercooling is quite extreme and good overclocks can be had on air with selected processors at the snip of a price of watercooling, and without having to leak test.
DIABLO May 05, 2003, 01:23 PM How much you overclock as Badidoh mentioned will greatly depend on what cpu core you have i palemino cores won't get much over 1800MHz where a thoroughbred B core will proberly get to 2000MHz with decent cooling and a uppage in voltage. What is the currant temp of your cpu idle or full load? And since the chip will almost certainly multiplier locked you will have to up the FSB to overclock the cpu but this will also overclock the motherboard and RAM and if your motherboard doe's not support locking the PCI bus (only nForce boards support it) the pci devices.
BigStan May 05, 2003, 01:49 PM Nforce 2 boards wont unlock palimino's btw.
gamehunter May 05, 2003, 06:05 PM Good luck kwepmmnd!! Keep me informed how you make out. :)
kwepmmnd May 05, 2003, 06:28 PM I will, dont worry..
Im gonna read about it for a while, and then try it out, ill do a little at a time, until it gets unstable, then i will put it back down to the stable setting with a good temp.
Btw, how do I see the temp of my processor?
kwepmmnd May 06, 2003, 01:53 AM The processor temp....how do I see that?
peter_uk May 06, 2003, 03:45 AM You can use Mother Board Monitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) just set if up for which sensors you wish to monitor, overall great program.
peter
beardedwonder May 06, 2003, 05:34 AM Originally posted by BigStan
Watercooling is quite extreme and good overclocks can be had on air with selected processors at the snip of a price of watercooling, and without having to leak test. ´
I don't think it's that extreme seeing as there are many kits available now, but as with everything you have to do plenty of reading and have patience, it's not just about popping down to Maplins and grabbing their kit (mainly because it's crap :))
A leak test isn't that hard to do, stick everything on top of a piece of cardboard and run it overnight.
A couple of links for water-cooling:
Wetandchillychips (http://www.wetandchillychips.co.uk/) their forum is a good source of info.
Water-cooling (http://www.water-cooling.com/).
gamehunter May 06, 2003, 06:14 AM As I stated in an earlier post, I installed an I panel on the front of my pc. It fits in a standard cd rom port. It monitors the fan speeds, shows the speed of my processor, as well as the temp of the mother board and processor. If I remember correctly, it ran me about 20 dollars.
If you stick to the guidelines I gave you above, you shouldn't cause any damage. If anything, your pc would lock up on you, and you would just have to turn it down a bit.
gamehunter May 06, 2003, 06:22 AM Here you go:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=ipanel
kwepmmnd May 06, 2003, 02:24 PM yeah, i bought one of them off of e-bay for $16, and it also has a firewire port....lol
kwepmmnd May 06, 2003, 08:55 PM Xoxide.com has a computer with an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ cpu, which is supposed to run @ 1470 MHZ, but they overclocked it to 2300 MHZ, and its running perfectly at 90 degrees F
They sell it for under $1300
gamehunter May 06, 2003, 10:54 PM I just checked out the site you mentioned and confirmed what you said. I can't begin to understand how the hell they could accomplish that much overclocking without water cooling. The're saying they use fans :confused:
beardedwonder May 07, 2003, 03:17 AM It's because it's the thoroughbred chip (AMD AthlonXP 1700+ JIUHB) CPU City (www.cpucity.co.uk) You can get these chips here.
I'm thinking about getting one of these at the mo because i'm going with water cooling :)
BigStan May 07, 2003, 04:04 AM Originally posted by beardedwonder
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I don't think it's that extreme seeing as there are many kits available now, but as with everything you have to do plenty of reading and have patience, it's not just about popping down to Maplins and grabbing their kit (mainly because it's crap :))
A leak test isn't that hard to do, stick everything on top of a piece of cardboard and run it overnight.
A couple of links for water-cooling:
Wetandchillychips (http://www.wetandchillychips.co.uk/) their forum is a good source of info.
Water-cooling (http://www.water-cooling.com/).
Ok, but its a lot more complicated that a standard heatsink and fan, plus you will need to fiddle around with fitting the rad inside your case, maybe a bit of modding needed.. Plus you have to be very careful when attaching thw water block to cpu to make sure even pressure is applied. Then you have the inconvenience of removing the chipset cooling on mobo and graohics card if you want complete silence.....
Otherwise the money can be spent on a quality heatsink and quiet 80/90 mm fan with little more to gain from watercooling.
One drop of water where its not supposed to go and...... :sick:
Secondly, I have a 1700 dlt3c and an 1800 dlt3c, former has been upto 2.1Ghz on my crappy 7vrxp and 2.4Ghz on my bros 8rda+, the 1800 has done 2.1Ghz on my board but needed slightly higher voltage to get there. Once a new mobo arrives ill push them higher. Bargain for under 50 quid.
beardedwonder May 08, 2003, 05:24 AM The rad doesn't have to go in your case but if you're lucky enough you can mount it on the back fan grill under the PSU without having to mod. Mounting a waterblock is like mounting a heatsink, you always have to be careful! It does also depend on what water block you get as well.
The fan on the mobo chipset can't be heard normally when the case is shut. This obviously differs between different boards and as for the graphics card after the fan on my GF4 gave up it will be a pleasure to watercool it so i don't have to worry about it anymore!
In the end it depends on the person, i like to watch DVDs on my PC and tbh the noise of the fans drives me up the wall and the PC is in my room so quiet is good for me :)
But quite true about the drop of water where it's not supposed to go! That's why the leak test is v. important.
I think i will go for the 1700xp because it's cheap and i think i'll be able to get a lot out if it with water cooling, know someone who got 2.4Ghz almost straight away, he's going to try and push it more when he's got a bit of time.
PS: anyone got any experience overclocking on AMDs newer CPUs? Perhaps Bartons?
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