does any one know where i can get em cheap, i need +r, 2.4x

www.alloutmedia.com

That link doesn't work. Simply says the page is coming soon. Have you tried Ritek DVD+R ugzkmk as they are comparable to Verbatims and they are a fair bit cheaper. Sam's Club does seem to have some specials on the Verbatim discs from time to time. Anyway this is better suited to the CO-OP forum.

do riteks use the same dye as verbs. i recently tried fuji but they sucked IMO. nothing i burnt could be read, even movies. i used to get my verbs from bestbuy but they seem to have stopped carrying them, i guess ill have to try riteks.

thanks.

From what I understand some Verbatims are Ritek dye. Riteks are very good and they are cheaper. You can order them in 25 packs from www.meritline.com www.allmediaoutlet.com www.rima.com. If you don't mind spending a bunch of money at once you can buy them in packs of 50-100 or more and then they are even cheaper per disc than in a 25 pack.