i just downgraded my burner from 1.41 to 1.31 and i try burnign at 2x with prassi and prassi shoots out a error write at the beginning saying bad read disc. Any way to get this burner to burn at 2x. i also tried 2x for all hack and that wont work either. im using the latest version of prassi with all the updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated

ive tried jsut about every firm ware. i just tried 1.20 rpg 2x for all and i got it to burn at 2x. but i get the bad burn towards the outer portion of the disc. any help on what firmware i should try would be great

That is a hardware problem not software , usually caused by problem on the UDMA controller or setting ie using 80 wire UDMA cabling on a cd-rom/dvd device

is there anyway to fix this

My old 104 burns Ritek G03's at 2 X, using 1,31.
Some 104's, however, couldn't burn at 2 X whatever media or firmware was used. Mine was an older model, but many of the newer ones, had this problem.

Try again, using a decent Ritek G03 (important) and 1.31. Also make sure your IDE Channel is set to DMA and not PIO and, if not already, make the burner the Master drive on your secondary IDE channel.

If the above doesn't do the trick ..... you probably have one of the newer models.

hey phil how do i set it to dma.

Originally posted by kzeitler
hey phil how do i set it to dma. I'm not phil but I'll tell you.:) In a Microcrap OS goto Device Manger than your IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers then you will have a Primary IDE Channel and a Secondary (in must cases) then look and see that they are both set to DMA if available (Device 0 And Device 1) in "Advanced Settings" for the Transfer Mode. Also do the same for the other IDE channel. I have the DVR-104 with firmware 1.33(2x4all) and burn at 2x all the time. I don't know how old your drive is but my drive is a year old and I have heard some of the newer drives just can't do it. Good Luck.:hdspin: :round: :hdspin:

notahacker if you got that upgrade could you email me or post a link to where to get it. thom1099@cs.com

Originally posted by kzeitler
notahacker if you got that upgrade could you email me or post a link to where to get it. thom1099@cs.com pioneer2x4all (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sccs.ltd/pioneer2x4all/)
Just a note I burn with Nero, CopyToDVD, DVD Devcrypter, CloneDVD and I've used DVD X COPY Xpress all at 2x with-out a problem so I wonder if its your software you use or your drive is to new.:confused:

Originally posted by kzeitler
i just downgraded my burner from 1.41 to 1.31 and i try burnign at 2x with prassi and prassi shoots out a error

Put it back to 1.41

Originally posted by Templar
Put it back to 1.41 Why??:confused:

Originally posted by NotAHacker
Why??:confused:

Your're kidding, right? Sounds like he broke it by downgrading from 1.41 to 1.31, so putting it back should fix it, unless I'm missing something you are seeing.......I just don't know why so many people screw around with firmware instead of getting proper media. 104's burn good media at 2X right out of the box. He's still using prassi primo too, instead of RNM. All this information has been gone over at least a hundred times.

well i put another burner in that same computer and used prassi that one burned perfectly at 2x. so it know its not prassi it is the burner.

Originally posted by Templar
Your're kidding, right? Sounds like he broke it by downgrading from 1.41 to 1.31, so putting it back should fix it, unless I'm missing something you are seeing.......I just don't know why so many people screw around with firmware instead of getting proper media. 104's burn good media at 2X right out of the box. He's still using prassi primo too, instead of RNM. All this information has been gone over at least a hundred times. The DVR-104 didn't burn at 2x right out the box!! Thats been gone over millions times thats why they came out with 2x4all firmware!! I use ritek go3 and my drive didn't burn 2x till I flashed with firmware 1.33 (2x4all). But I will agree with you that he should try diferent media!! But since I flashed mine the only media that burns at 1x is DVD-RW.

"well i put another burner in that same computer and used prassi that one burned perfectly at 2x. so it know its not prassi it is the burner." Was it DVR-104? The only other thing I can think of is he's drive is to new.:tdown:

My 104 burned a 1X, 2X RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX, and if it had not, I would have returned it, not start flashing it with a bunch of different firmware, especially HACKED firmware. If something doesn't work as advertised, why waste time f'ing with it? Return it for one that does work, instread of voiding the warranty.

Originally posted by Templar
My 104 burned a 1X, 2X RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX, and if it had not, I would have returned it, not start flashing it with a bunch of different firmware, especially HACKED firmware. If something doesn't work as advertised, why waste time f'ing with it? Return it for one that does work, instread of voiding the warranty.
So just because something works for you doesn't mean it has to work for everyone else and I though the point of this forum was to help members. In fact drives can work different right out box think about it, manufacturing dates and lets not forget different firmwares!!! So in your option flashing is not a good think to do, but since kzeitler already did that I think where beyond that!!!
kzeitler now asking for help and hes already came to the conclusion that 1.41 didn't work for him and he doesn't have a problem flashing he's drive!!! I guess you don't believe in windows updates either, some time manufactures come up with fixs and its not a bad thing!!

I agree that there are all sorts of circumstances that can vary the end users success with a hardware part, and that there are "lemons" in any manufacturing process. All I am saying is that in the original wording of his post, it appeared that after he downgraded his firmware, the drive would no longer burn at 2X. If that is not the case, ok. I just know that there are plenty of instances of people breaking their drives with unauthorized firmware. I also know that there are tons of posts by people fighting bad media. Since another drive worked for him with the same software, I just suggest he return the drive for another. In my experience of an A03, A04, and now an A05, all have worked just fine when using the product out of the box, with decent media. Perhaps I am just lucky. I certainly do believe in updates, and use them regularly.....provided there is something to fix. If nothing is wrong, I don't mess with it. Windows update, for instance, has broken as many computers as it has fixed, from what I have seen. Not in my case, so again, I am lucky I guess. I don't think my advise is out of line, or not helpful, but you are entitled to think otherwise if you choose. Until kzeitler posts whether the two drives are the same, and some system specs, I'll refrain from posting any more responses. I don't come on this board to argue, or give bad advise. It is strictly voluntary and positive, as the many I have helped will tell you. I don't pretend to pronounce myself always right, and will admit it if I am wrong. I just don't believe I am giving bad advise in this case.

Oh, and the 2X4all firmware, was not issued by Pioneer to fix a 2X problem. It is hacked firmware to force the drive to write 1X media at 2X, which it was NOT designed to do, and has led to problems for many.