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GSM Super Star
Jan 06, 2004, 05:10 PM
What do ya all think of these MotherBoards?

This one:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51254

& This One:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51760

The Reviews seem good. What will be the bad points?

ElaineM
Jan 06, 2004, 07:33 PM
I just wouldn't recommend buying anything made by PC Chips. IMHO their boards are total crap. However to answer your question(after a quick look), the first one only supports up to PC2100 memory and the other one only supports up to PC2700.

Hippie
Jan 06, 2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ElaineM
I just wouldn't recommend buying anything made by PC Chips. IMHO their boards are total crap.

I will second that based on personal experience. I have a PCChips M830L in another PC and it drove me crazy for almost a year and from what I found while searching for a solution is that it was one of their "better" boards at the time. :eek: PCChips and ECS are basically the same company and I didn't see too many kind words about ECS boards either in my searches. There is an entire forum devoted to ECS/PCChips motherboards and their problems.

GSM Super Star
Jan 07, 2004, 08:30 AM
Bugger I will give them a miss then. I suppose you get what you pay for. I am trying to be tight with my money again. :)

Mr Snatcher
Jan 07, 2004, 09:03 AM
Yes, PcChips suck. If your tight with money ECS boards is cheap, not the greatest, but better than PcChips.

Dave2986
Jan 07, 2004, 10:20 AM
i have a ECS K7S5A, and have for 3 years

Its crap by todays standards, and does have a few probs, but their very minor

ECS sell more motherboards then a lot of other manufactures, as they sell a lot to OEM's

GSM Super Star
Jan 07, 2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Dave2986
i have a ECS K7S5A, and have for 3 years

Its crap by todays standards, and does have a few probs, but their very minor

ECS sell more motherboards then a lot of other manufactures, as they sell a lot to OEM's

LOL Thats the current board I have now :( I have so many problems with it I wouldnt be able to list them all :laugh:

Hippie
Jan 07, 2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by GSM Super Star
LOL Thats the current board I have now :( I have so many problems with it I wouldnt be able to list them all :laugh:

The ECS K7S5A and PCCHips M830 are one and the same. Yeah, ain't it great ? I learned a LOT about PC's because of it though, more than I ever intended to or wanted to. :rolleyes:

Based on info from the K7S5A Forum I finally added a cooling fan to the mobo chipset on my M830L and it is now functioning properly but I will NEVER trust it for my primary PC, it is going in my garage when I get the heat and AC out there.

GSM Super Star
Jan 07, 2004, 12:08 PM
I have just been looking at the ASROCK Mother Boards (i think thats how you spell it) are they better?

andyr
Jan 07, 2004, 03:31 PM
ASRock are the 'budget line' from ASUS.

It's worth paying a little extra for the 'respected' motherboard brands just for peace of mind and a quiet life!

In saying that, I built a full computer a few months ago for someone on a very tight budget (£180 to be exact) and while it's not the best computer, it does what they want it to do and does it well.

I took the chance on using a cheap ASRock board - K7VM2 Rev3.0. This has onboard audio (2 channel) onboard video, onboard Lan and onboard USB 2.0 (4 ports), Via Chipset (KM266) and cost it me £28.

I threw in the box alongside it an Athlon XP 1700+, 40Gig Hard drive (7200rpm ATA 133), 256 meg PC2100 DDR, Lite-ON 52x32x52x CD-RW, a Hauppage TV card, 15 Inch Monitor, 350W supply+case, floppy drive, speakers, optical mouse and multimedia keyboard.

I had no problems with the ASRock board and they haven't had any problems since. The onboard VGA is rubbish but they wanted the system for surfing and word processing and some simple games. If they want to add a gfx card then there is a 4xAGP slot on the board.

If truth be told, I was quite impressed with ASRock board.

GSM Super Star
Jan 07, 2004, 03:43 PM
Im not doing to well realy am I. What is a good board and what price? LOL

hollie.weimeraner
Jan 07, 2004, 03:51 PM
Asus a7v600 around 60 -65 gbp inc vat. Has onboard sound, lan, sata and supports 400mhz fsb. Havn't got one myself but my sons buying one this weekend and coupling it with a 2500 Barton CPU for £140 from a local store.

GSM Super Star
Jan 07, 2004, 04:17 PM
This one is £56 any good?

http://www.cclcomputers.biz/specs/motherboard/asus/A7N8XX/spec.htm

Van Nugent
Jan 07, 2004, 04:27 PM
I have that A7V600 and it's my favourite. Even though overclockability-wise it's not as good as the Asus A7N8X Deluxe or the Abit NF7-S v2.0 but it's a solid board that runs so sweet. The Gigabit LAN is superfast and the SATA RAID is very stable with the latest BIOS. It looks cool, too.

However, you may find the Asus A7N8X Deluxe or the Abit NF7-S v2.0 to be more attractive if you are planning to play around the voltages, multipliers, and such. Both are about $30 US more than the A7V600.

For a darn good budget Nvidia board, I would recommend the Biostar M7NCD (~ $55 US) or M7NCD Pro (~ $65). Both are based on the NForce2 400 chipset. The M7NCD has only 2 RAM slots while the PRO has 3. Also, the PRO lets you play with the voltages for OC'ing.

Since all XP processors are locked after week 39/03, an XP 2600+ or 2700+ would be a better choice than the 2500+ Barton. My GF just recently built her an XP 2600+ T-bred on a M7NCD board with 512MB of regular Kingston RAM and I just can't believe how fast the system is. This mobo not only is fast and very easy to set up, but also it is quite easy going with RAM. The Asrock on the other hand is very memory choosy. So are Asus boards.

garythebeaut
Jan 08, 2004, 06:34 AM
Get an Abit, they make possibly the best boards out there, go to overclockers.co.uk the prices vary and arent too expensive. Anyway, the motherboard is the main part of your PC. A cheap board can cause you problems, whether its the initial setup, drivers, upgrading, or more importantly crashing. Also, Abit boards are very easy to overclock with, and that way you get more for your money.

Mr Snatcher
Jan 08, 2004, 09:32 AM
Abit NF-7 here too, superstar.

Van Nugent
Jan 08, 2004, 01:49 PM
Yep, I also vote for the Abit NF7-S v2.0 because of its excellent overclockability, stability, and not being too memory choosy.

I think you will enjoy that mobo till you get an A64 board. :)

GSM Super Star
Jan 08, 2004, 03:14 PM
Looks like its the Abit. Will have to wait till pay day and then I will order it.