Have a pioneer 106d .....master on secondary channel .........windows 98se.......it's burning at 2x speed so i think this is the problem.....everytime i tick dma mode and reboot,it comes back unticked.........any ideas.......and yes i've looked thru past posts but can't seem to find anything relating to my prob.
The 106d is burnig at 2x speed instead of 4 and i think this may be the problem,so if anybody can help me activate dma it will be much apprecated.

in device manager uninstall the secondary IDe channel then reboot when windows boots it will reinstall the channel and it should be DMA enabled.

Hopefully suggestion by iss above will sort it .......
If not ..... what media are you using ? and is there anything else installed on the Secondary channel ?

Thanx for the reply ......yes did try that iss but to no avail.......PhilEnfield here some info........as u can i can activate the dma on the 52x liteon


USING DATASAFE MEDIA

Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : Off

Adapter 2
---------
Description : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : Off
Autorun : Off
Description : LITE-ON LTR-52327S
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : Off


Software Information
--------------------
Operating System : Windows 98 SE
DirectX : DirectX 9.0b

Description : Nero Burning ROM
Version : 6, 3, 0, 0
Company : Ahead Software AG
Version Check : Ok

Description : NeroVision Express
Version : 2,1,0,3
Company : Ahead Software AG

Description : Nero ShowTime
Version : 1, 5, 0, 4
Company : Ahead software AG

Description : CloneCD Replicator Program
Version : 4.2.0.2
Company : Elaborate Bytes AG

ASPI Information
----------------
System ASPI : ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL : 1, 0, 0, 0 36864 bytes April 23, 1999
APIX.VXD : 4.00.952 29497 bytes April 23, 1999
WINASPI.DLL : 1.00 3536 bytes April 23, 1999

Nero ASPI : ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL : 2.0.1.59 160016 bytes November 11, 2003

Put the lite-on as slave on the primary IDE channel along with the HDD and leave the pioneer as master on the secondry, This may be your problem as having 2 readers and/or writers insn't recommended on the same IDE channel.

Cheers geobon i'll try that now and let u know......

dma mode can only be activated if the units support it.

Handyguy how do i find out,although i'm able to activate it on the liteon 52x....btw geodon tried ur way still won't change.

You don't have to find out just ask and 99% of peeps will tell you, In fact i don't know what handyguy's on about myself as ive never heard of a DVDrom or DVDwriter that dosen't support DMA mode as this is the recommended settings. But anyhow ask someone that runs win98 as it may be down to it not supporting the 106 thats if anyone still uses it as most peeps i know use the ntfs file system ie win2k/XP when running DVDwriters.

From the info you have provided, I noticed that your Hard Drive is not set to DMA either, which will double your problems.

As you have successfully enabled DMA on the 52x liteon, which is the second device on your Secondary IDE Channel, there has to be a problem with your settings somewhere.
I am wondering if this may be a BIOS issue.

Have a look in your BIOS and see if the devices in your IDE channels are set to LBA. If you find that only the second device on your Secondary IDE Channel (i.e. the 52x liteon) is set to LBA, this may explain things.
If this turns out to be so, try setting them all to LBA and see what happens.

Thanks for the replies m8s..i'll check the the bios or will get someone else to do it as i'm not to familiar with it.

{Put the lite-on as slave on the primary IDE channel along with the HDDand leave the pioneer as master on the secondry) tried that geobon but but did'nt work.


I must say it's been a pleasure posting here,i really do appreicate the help i've been given.

Good News !! ..... I just found this on another forum, which seems to describe your problem, together with the solution. From your log, it seems as though you have the buggy version (4.10.2222) :

"Good news and bad news for Win98SE users ........Bad news is that I found through some trial and error that the protected-mode driver 98SE uses for its HDDs can't handle DMA, even if you set the drives to use DMA through the Device Manager properties ....instead it will simply revert back to PIO ......Good news is to replace the driver: esdi_506.pdr

.....If you're using the earlier version of the driver (version 4.10.1998) found in Win98 (not 98SE), there isn't a problem ....the buggy version is 4.10.2222 ........you can use the earlier version in 98SE to fix it, but there's a better solution _:yes:

.....There is an MS update for large IDE drives which removes another limitation in both of the earlier versions, the limitation that the disk utils (scandisk and defrag) have with drives larger than 32G .....the update is 243450USA8.EXE (http://download.microsoft.com/download/win98SE/Update/5638-6151/W98/EN-US/243450USA8.EXE), which has two different updated files. one for 98 (version 4.10.2186) and one for 98SE (version 4.10.2225) .....This updated file for 98SE seems to correct the DMA limitation as well as the large drive limitation"

HTH

ok phil.... tried the bios and all devices are set to udma .....downloaded and installed the update....still will not stay ticked in dma .......have also changed to this.....

Adapter 1
---------
Description : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : Off
Description : LITE-ON LTR-52327S
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : Off

Adapter 2
---------
Description : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : Off
Autorun : Off

It could be that something is corrupted somewhere in W98se

Cant think of anything else to suggest m8, other than a reinstall of Windows.

Have you tried setting devices to LBA in the bios rather than UDMA?

only got these options in bios........

pio mode-0
pio mode-4
enhanced dma
ultra ata (udma)

Hmmmmm. it could be worth trying pio mode 4

Tried that m8.........

Couple more questions :

Are the jumpers on your drives set to Master, Slave etc. as opposed to Cable Select ?

In BIOS are your Drives set to AUTO detect ?

Are your IDE Ribbon Cables 80 pin connections ... i.e. new type (old were 40 pin) ?

Cant figure out though why your Lite-ON is DMA ON, even after moving it and the others aren't :confused:

EDIT :
Above should read 80 conductors/wires and not 80 pin

Are the jumpers on your drives set to Master, Slave etc. as opposed to Cable Select ?..........YES

In BIOS are your Drives set to AUTO detect ?.....DON'T HAVE AN OPTION

Are your IDE Ribbon Cables 80 pin connections ... i.e. new type (old were 40 pin) ?...........40 PIN

Cant figure out though why your Lite-ON is DMA ON, even after moving it and the others aren't ........ GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01...... DMA IS NOW ON

Aha ..... we may have a possible here.

Have a look here : http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html

It's certainly worth grabbing a couple of new IDE cables (approx £8), as this could well be your problem.

Like anything else, there's no guarantee, but it's a process of elimination.

Sorry for the late jump in on this.

I HAVE to have 80 pin cables on my 105 for it to stay in DMA, rather than PIO on my Intel mobo. Sounds like the above post is the answer to me.

On my way to the shops today .......will let everyone know later.

Hi All

Had this problem myself a whiles ago.
Don't know how old your HDD is, but that
was my problem. After changing it, all
worked fine. Try to get a loan of one and
see if it helps.

Cheers from Iron Man

ok back from the shops changed cable........still no joy.Sorry Iron_Man_2 don't want to change the harddrive as i've got it just right.

With the new cable fitted, try uninstalling the IDE contoller again and reboot, letting Windoze reinstall it & redetect the 106.

Just done that m8 ...no change ..think i'm about to give up.....funny thing though when i drop to 2x i burns slightly faster.

did you try the Nero Infotool, its free at:
http://www.cdspeed2000.com/

Hi rushlight69

As I said earlier, I had same problem, and found my HDD to be faulty.
Is is not worth borrowing one to see if it clears the fault. You dont
have to touch your original disk. Just do a clean install of OS, re-enable
DMA on all drives and see

Cheers from Iron Man

Do you have the Intel Application Accelerator installed? If so, try uninstalling it, as this is a known issue w/ some drives/mobo combo. Also, is your mobo BIOS up to date?

handyguy....tried that ..getting 2.52 speed
Iron_Man_2..........just tried that,still won't change with different h/d
Templar......don't have that installed

Originally posted by rushlight69
ok phil.... tried the bios and all devices are set to udma .....downloaded and installed the update....still will not stay ticked in dma .......have also changed to this.....

Adapter 1
---------
Description : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : Off
Description : LITE-ON LTR-52327S
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : Off

Adapter 2
---------
Description : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : Off
Autorun : Off

Are you sure you applied the update correctly ? as I just ran it on my dual boot system on W98se and the ESDI_506.pdr version now shows :

Version : 4.10.2225

justed seen that too phil and checked .......it still 4.10.2222A .Could u run it it by me how run it correctly.

It's a self extracting file .... just double click it and it will open, then just follow the screen prompts.

done that phil and it just loaded .......no prompts

Give up?

think ur right ...............but if we give up then whats the use of trying!

god loves a tryer g;)

You could try getting rid of clonecd and see if that helps, afterwards uninstall the ide channel and reboot and see what happens. my oldman wanted some card cames copied the weekend, so i got clonecd and then afterwards noticed my lite-on combo was taking 30mins to rip a dvd instead of the usual 5mins.:mad: some how it had changed it to pio and no matter what you did it wouldn't go back to dma.:eek:

Originally posted by rushlight69
done that phil and it just loaded .......no prompts

So what version of the ESDI_506.pdr is now sowing in your system info ?
i.e. has it now got the correct one ?

Sorry m8 it's
ver 4
4.10.22225

Have a read of this hack M8 for tweaking win 98, seems like you have tried alsmost everything else, there was once a post on here, that gave exact instructions on how to tweak the registry when windows wouldn't keep the DMA setting, was a while ago, maybe even on the old rom

http://www.windows-help.net/windows98/tune-35.shtml

Ok m8s its all sorted now ..........burning at top speed and loving it...........oh u want to know how i fix it........well first problem was an EXPERT who installed the drive put the ide cable in the wrong way and damged one of the pins in the back of the drive .......after i fix the pin and installed xp everything worked fine ............so there must be a lesson here for someone.

LOL ......... I hope you whipped him with the ribbon cable :D