Hi, I'm havin trouble with my pc. When i try to play any game with reasonabley good graphics the computer just suddenly restarts. I am the second owner of the pc and i have had it for about 2 months. Its only does it with games. The better the graphics, the quicker it restarts. It's an Advent 3000 series with a nvidia geforce 4 mx graphics card and the owner before me added a creative audigy. I just can't figure out whats wrong with it!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Need more information please.

Has it ever worked OK with the same games, when did this problem occur, was it when you added or installed something, and what is your operating system and specs etc etc?

Hi, It's never worked properly with all my games, my older PC worked fine with the games. I'm using Windows XP Home with a 1.7GHz preocessor and 512MB of RAM. The OS has been restored quite a few times which makes me think there is something wrong with the hardware.

Download and install EVEREST (http://www.snapfiles.com/get/everest.html), and post the log here and someone will look at it for you.

Hi
The problem which you are having is maybe your RAM is avoiding you from playing the games. Try to change your ram and replace it by a new ram and see.

genious007

Sounds like it could be a heat issue. Try removing the side of the case and play the games that make it crash. If it doesn't crash, invest in some fans or a new case.

Also, make sure the interior of your case is dust free. If it's loaded with dust, vacuum it.

I would very much doubt it's heat, as he says it works OK except for games.

If it was heat, even general use would make it overheat.

As far as vacuuming, you have to be kidding if you mean a household cleaner :bang:

The static can fry the components. They should never be used inside a PC.

I disagree with you Insomniac. When you're gaming, your computer will produce much more heat. The cpu and the video card are under stress and heat up considerably.
The computer will only heat up moderately when idle (not gaming).
As far as vacuuming out the case, as long as everything is disconnected, including most importantly the power supply, I don't see a problem. Just make sure you're not on a carpeted area. I've been doing it for years and have never had a problem.
I stand by my above advice.

"I've been doing it for years and have never had a problem."

So, that doesn't mean it's safe. You could run across the road blindfolded and not get hit by a car, still doesn't mean it's safe or smart.

It doesn't matter if everything is off, it's the vacuum cleaner which contains the static and that can fry sensitive electronics.

This is the exact reason why they sell cans of compressed air and dedicated portable vacuum cleaners.

Do a Google and you will see that every expert recommends you don't use a household vacuum cleaner.

Yeah, whatever. Man you love to argue.

To the poster:
Take the side of your case off and see if your games still crash!!!!!!!


Let's see if the poster even comes back to check his replys.


Funny Ins., you didn't comment on the fact that the computer will generate more heat when gaming. Hmmmm?

It's got nothing to do with arguing, and everything to you giving out crappy and dangerous advice.

Everyone knows you don't get anywhere near the insides of computer with a vacuum cleaner :bang:

The fact you didn't shows the extent of your knowledge, or lack thereof. :)

Yeah, now I remember why I've been staying away from this forum. Pointless arguments with a spoiled child.


Quote by Insomniac:

I would very much doubt it's heat, as he says it works OK except for games.

If it was heat, even general use would make it overheat.



Your above statement shows the extent of your knowledge in this area, or lack thereof.

Unless the poster comes back to check on his replys, I'm done with this thread.

Hi, my pc is working fine now. I stuck another fan in the case and it helped no end. It still restarted but no where near as often. Then I updated the bios and i have not had a problem since. :) Thanks for the help. I do not mean to take sides but, i did take the cover of my pc and it worked fine.

Glad to hear you got the problem straightened out.

To stop it from restarting, and so you can log errors, go to Start, run and type in sysdm.cpl then OK.

On the Advanced tab, under Startup and Recovery click Settings, and under System Failure uncheck Automatically Restart.

(This is for XP)

That won't fix anything, but will stop it from restarting on every error it encounters and allow you to resolve any issues.

The setting I supplied should be done anyway, so if it encounters an error you will get a blue screen and can write down and investigate it, otherwise it will just reboot with no information.

This should be done on any XP computer, but then again, you don't know much about computers, do you LamePunter? :wavey:

Hi, i have tried to disable that restart thingy but it just freezes and nothing else happens. That was before the problem was solved! All is fine now. I also think you guys need to chill out a bit!

KoolKid, you have a problem that hasn't been resolved yet, anyway good luck.


LamePunter, I thought of heat before you even posted, but I disregarded it because unless you only use the PC for gaming and nothing else, then the problem would occur in general use.

Gaming stresses the GPU, and to a much smaller extent the CPU.

General use like audio, DVD and video stresses the CPU much more.

Anyway, in the end it wasn't heat, so you were wrong again.

I actually give you some credit for admitting you were wrong on the vacuum cleaner, but try to accept that you are also misguided on the heat issue.

No go and do your vacuuming. :laugh:

Ok insomniac, here we go again. I was not wrong on the heat issue. (note I called you by your name, don't make me sorry I did) Koolkids problem has been resolved, and you would know that if you paid attention to his last post.

Quote by koolkid

Hi, i have tried to disable that restart thingy but it just freezes and nothing else happens. That was before the problem was solved! All is fine now.



Todays games in single player mode are very cpu demanding. The ai it takes to run bots can be extensive. The video card will heat up when gaming, as well as the cpu, bringing the temps quite a bit higher.



If you recall from one of koolkids earlier posts, quote:

Thanks for the help. I do not mean to take sides but, i did take the cover of my pc and it worked fine



With the side of the case off, heat was allowed to escape. The computer did not crash

He also stated that he put a fan in his case, and it crashed, but not as often.

What solved the problem??? He updated his bios. Problem gone.


I'm willing to bet that the shutdown temp in his bios was set to low by the previous owner. You do realize you can set the computer to shut down, or reboot in the bios if the temp gets to high right??

When he updated his bios, everything got reset, thus putting back the shut down temp to default (not enabled). So, now the computer can run at a higher temp without any problems :)

Anyways, thats my theory.

Then you are mistaken.

Anyway, I'm not here to debate or try to convince you, think what you like.

No proof of being mistaken :)

Arghh no! it's doing it again :yell:

Definetly not overheating this time!

I have a fan on the, graphics card, 4 on the case and 1 one the processor (obviously!). The system temp is staying at around 29 celcius.

Any help would be great thanks

Try to uncheck it from restarting on errors as I suggested in post #15.


Then when you get a problem, it will give you a blue screen with information instead of rebooting.


So much for it overheating, that's what you get for listening to an idiot.

It still just restarts! No blue Screen at all. I lately tried another graphics card that worked with no problems at all untill a restart and now exactley the same thing happens. I'm beggining to think that it is the power supply struggling or the motherboard is approaching it's expiry date! I've Checked the RAM aswell and that appears to be fine.

Have you checked Event Viewer? (start, run and type in eventvwr.msc)


As far as hardware, it could really be anything, but the PSU is the most obvious.


How often does it do it, and does it do it in Safe Mode?

Insomniac, i'm not quite sure what to be looking for in event viewer. Under system there is a long list and some of them are red crosses.


:hdspin:

Next time it does it, make a note of the exact time, then look in Event Viewer and match it up.

Hopefully that will give you more info.

i did what you said but I can't see any causes of the restarting. I tried it in safe mode and the game didn't work at all btw.

Is it only rebooting from a game, or is it in general use?


If it's only a game, which one is it?


(as much info as possible)

It only does it on 2 games, Doom 3 and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3. It restarts on doom 3 within 5 mins of the actual game starting even on the lowest graphics setting (Low detail @ 640x480) and coaster 3 the pc restarts within 20 mins at medium detail @800x600. It used to restart on need for speed underground 2 but the fans appeared to fix that. On need for speed it sometimes goes all wierd and graphics on the car dissapear leaving black spaces and it lags badly but i found that if you minimise the screen and bring it up again it fixes it's self and won't do it again untill the game is restarted and it does exactley the same thing on call of duty 2.

-I've tried 2 Nvidia graphics cards in my computer and both in another computer which worked fine with the games (apart from being very jumpy due to 256mb Ram)

-I've tried just 1 of the 256 sticks of ram in my pc and it did the same

-I've tried underclocking the graphics card from 64meg to 4meg and it just freezes instead.

-I've tried using no cd thingys incase it's a dodgy drive and the same happens!

And i've ran out of ideas of what to do next! :tdown:

What are your system specs, as well as what version of DirectX are you using?

I would suggest running memtest86 from a floppy or bootable cd.
Let memtest run for several hours, to insure that the ram is not the culprit.
The computer restarting while playing games can be several different scenarios. You just need to try and narrow it down.
I would suggest doing the following as well:
01.)Update your device drivers (especially the video)
02.)Try reinstalling directx
03.)remove any hardware that was recently installed. (sound card, modem etc)
04.)Thoroughly clean the inside of your pc with compressed air. (walmart has this for around $6.00) (remember to unplug the power and press the power button once to discharge the remaining current from the capacitors on the motherboard) As previously noted, take caution of ESD.
05.)You may try unplugging everything except for one cd drive and one hard drive, to try and see if the power supply is failing. Usually a power supply problem will cause th pc to reboot sporadically.
06.)Check the task manager by pressing ctr alt del simutaniously. Look under the processes tab and check to see if you have any unusual processes running. If your uncertain, just ask.
07.)Check that your heat sink is seated properly. You may want to remove it and clean it and apply some good thermal paste.
08.)Check the fan on the videocard (if it has one).
09.)Download and run Spy Bot Search and Destroy 1.4
10.)Download and run hijack This.
11.)if all else fails you may want to consider a fresh install of windows.

Really all you can do is start with the basics and try and bleed out the obvious.

Cheers,
Razors Edge Technology

I fail to see what help HiJack This and Spybot are in this instance.


It's only rebooting during gaming, which would suggest a hardware or driver issue rather than malware.

I highly recommend those two programs to anyone. Sorry you are incorrect, but viruses can cause all kinds of malicious problems whether playing games or day to day usage. There are viruses that attack the hardware at the driver level. Cleaning up your pc can only help in diagnosing problems.

Cheers,
Razors Edge Technology

Even if what you say has is correct, which it isn't, HiJack This should only be used by experienced people, and preferably at one of the many forums dedicated to it.

It has crippled plenty of systems from being used improperly.


One example, which you didn't mention, is that it must be run from it's own folder and not from desktop or it's zip container or it won't create a backup.

That's just one out of many possible scenarios.


Name me one virus or worm that makes a computer reboot during gaming?

Insomniac, shut up. Yes, you do know plenty about computers, but get back to the point at hand.
The reason the computer keeps rebooting is because it is once again OVERHEATING!!!! The installing of additional fans solved the problem, but also increased the accumulation of DUST. Kid, take the computer outside with the sides off, go to town with a can of COMPRESSED AIR!!!! The power supply, the heatsink, the fan on the video card (if one), etc.
You may want to invest in some filters for the fans, or better yet, invest in a new case. Newegg.com has plenty of inexpensive cases, even with power supply included that will supply plenty of room for air supply.

LamePunter, you said you would never post here again, but you keep coming back? :rolleyes:

The owner said it's not overheating, and is measuring his temps, but you sitting in your trailer obviously know better. :clown:

In all this thread nothing has been said about the PSU, what watage is it ?.

And also remove it, take the cover off it and check the electrlytic capacitors in it, see if any of them have bulging tops, a elec cap looks like a small can, usually with a black plastic covering around it with its value and voltage readings printed on it.

The top of them should be flat, so if bulging they are on there way out, and could be causing the various voltage lines to be low and have poor smoothing etc, upseting the graphics card or anything else connected to the affected voltage line/s.

Its always best to check the condition of the PSU at least once a year, as they have a hard life in comps nowadays, and do not last as long as they used to, either that or the electroytic caps used today are not as good as they used to be, and when they finally give up the ghost they can wipe out the mobo and CPU with it etc, i know this as it hapened to me some 18 months ago, i now check it, in fact i replaced this just the other week, as when checked some of the caps were starting to bulge again, and i do know what i'm talking about as i have been a TV/VCR repair eng for some 30 odd years.

colin.

The author himself said he suspected power supply.

The poster said the system temp was 29c. I take it by that he means interior temp. What about the cpu, the gpu? Other factors to deal with here.
The power supply could also be the culprit as mentioned above. To the poster, how many watts is the power supply and how old is it?

LOL Gamehunter's back!

CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100 @ 1.7 Gig
Graphics: nVidia GeForce 4 MX 64MB
DirectX: 9.0c
512mb Ram (2x256meg sticks)
160Gb Hardrive space (2x80gigs)
MB: Elite L7VMM
Sound: Onboard Ac'97 (disabled in Bios) Creative Audigy 2

GHunter - Not over heating this time.
Pc has been on for a good 6 hours doin nothing.
Case temp: 32C
CPU temp: 43C

The graphics card has a fan that i stuck on just to make sure! I have ran Ad-aware CE and that only picked up a handfull of tracking cookies. I really don't want to take my psu apart because i'm only good at software and not as good at hardware.
All my computer is clean and dust free (used a soft paint brush and not a Dyson!)

Hi Guys, happy to join the phun....

KoolKid99 what were the alternative graphics cards you tried? have you tried any card above 64Mb ram ? Cards do get hot when gaming, far hotter than with the PC ticking over, this is because they have to work harder, working harder places higher demands on such things as the PSU, personally I have cured a few PC's with the same problem as you have by replacing the PSU.. However IMHO I think Gamehunter is on the right track with heat, (Graphics card, not CPU or case temps), you have already proved this taking the side case off, anyone who recalls the old VooDoo cards will know all about heat issues and how the PC reacts, Chandler68 also has a very good point the PSUs are susceptible to failure giving the same issues you are having prior to breakdown..

Nuttapper sits back and waits for the onslaught :cheers:

The other card i tried was from my old pc which has been gaming for atleast 6 years now and it's power supply already struggles but it works fine with the GeForce 4 in it apart from it sometimes refuses to POST. The Geforce2 MX did cause my pc to do the same and restart.

Personally i dont think its anything to do with the graphics card, as not many weeks ago i had to replace mine, as my comp started to do funy things, like freezing when when converting avi files with Nero, it froze on the review screen, so i started to use winavi, but after a few weeks this started to do the same.

Also at bootup random symbols started to appear on the screen, over some weeks this got worse till the entire screen was filled, plus other things happening.

So as its just happening with games etc, i rule out the graphics card.

The first thing i would try is another PSU, at least a 450W type and see what happens then, see if one of your friends will let you try there's for a few hours if this is pos, but nowadays new PSU's dont cost a lot, and will be needed sooner or later anyhow.

Also if you can i would remove the CPU's heatsink & fan, clean the surfaces and apply new heatsink compound, as when comp has been in use for a couple of years this becomes hard and not doing its job correctly.

I did this as a matter of course when i replaced my PSU a few weeks ago, together with cleaning out all fans etc.

colin.

Some more stuff i didn't answer
-The PSU is a 450W and really tiny!
-When i said system temp i ment the incase temp
- i can't unplug a drive as i keep windows on 1 drive and all my antivirus and games on the other.
-I'm not the 1st owner of the pc so i guess the psu is about 2-3 years old. The owner before me used the computer for browsing the net and e-mailing and not playing games like me

Kid, you said your cpu temp was 43c after sitting idle for 6 hours. Next time the computer reboots from gaming, check the cpu temp as soon as you can, and see how much the temp has climbed. Sitting idle isn't stressing out the cpu. The games you described earlier are very ai demanding, and could be increasing the temp quite a bit. Amd processors tend to run hot, and artic silver 5 may help considerably. If your gaming temps exceed 49c, I'll bet that's the culprit.
If the temps don't exceed 49c to 50c, my money is on the power supply, and I would take chandler68's advice about trying a different power supply.
Also, you may seriously consider a new video card. The ones you described earlier must be struggling, and the framerates must be very choppy.

I'm using a program called SpeedFan to watch my my temps but in the bios all the temps are 10 degrees C lower than Speedfan. After sticking my hand in the case Speedfan's temp seems to be more realistic. Is this a problem?

Also the Vcore voltage looks as if it changes slightly after restarting. It jumps between 1.72V and 1.74V.I will be a week or so before the opertunity to try a different power supply comes up.

I've managed to get some info just before the computer restarted

03/31/2006 06:08:25 PM;
Temp1 32.0 °C;
Temp2 47.0 °C;
Temp Sens 0 17.0 °C;
Temp Sens 1 20.0 °C;
Temp Sens 2 47.0 °C;
VCore 1 1.73 V;
VCore 2 2.50 V;
3,3 V 3.31 V;
5 V 4.97 V;
12 V 12.75 V;
V bat 3.4;
V opt 4.3;
V accu 110.0;
-5 V --5.1 V;
-12 V - 7.6 V;
Fan 1 4219 RPM ;
Fan 2 2722 RPM ;

03/31/2006 06:08:25 PM;
Temp1 32.0 °C;
Temp2 47.0 °C;
Temp Sens 0 17.0 °C;
Temp Sens 1 20.0 °C;
Temp Sens 2 47.0 °C;
VCore 1 1.73 V;
VCore 2 2.50 V;
3,3 V 3.31 V;
5 V 4.97 V;
12 V 12.75 V;
V bat 3.4;
V opt 4.3;
V accu 110.0;
-5 V --5.1 V;
-12 V - 7.6 V;
Fan 1 4219 RPM ;
Fan 2 2722 RPM ;

Seems they may be your problem

Does that mean that there is too much 12V load on the psu?

It means your PSU is phucked, to liitle voltage on one rail and to much on another

i tried a 450W power supply in it. To my supprise the PSU in it at the moment is 200w??? 200w??? I can't beleive it works at all??? It did the same with a 450w power supply and a Geforce 4 TI . i thought it had been fixed when a different version of DirectX was installed but it soon started to do the same thing again. I think it must be the motherboard so i'm gonna save up for a new one.

200 watt is pretty puny, but you shouldn't go by just Watts alone.

It's what it can supply on it's rails that matter.


Anyway, some more things to try are (and I haven't re read the entire thread),



Test your RAM sticks. You can use something like MemTest.


Run the DirectX Diagnostic Tool and see what it says (Start, Run and type in dxdiag)


Check the Bios and make sure it's not set to reboot when it hits a certain temperature (if you have that setting?)


You still haven't post an Everest Log as I suggested earlier.


Update all your drivers including and especially the motherboard/chipset drivers, DirectX, as well as soundcard and video card drivers.


(Everest will tell you what your hardware is if unsure)

Not sure what report you want on everest. System report? Software report? All? BTW i'm installing XP pro instead of home just incase it's that and i'm swapping e-mails with the Motherboard's manufacturer as i put a lower version bios thing on which made it way worse so i went back again and now it restarts while the games load up or 2 seconds into the game! Lol. I'm makin the bloody thing worse! :bang:

What I would do is have the minimum hardware installed, then install Windows with the latest motherboard/chipset drivers as well as sound drivers, and the latest DirectX (9.0c).

Then install the game giving you the most problem and try again.

If it does the same thing, you can be fairly sure it's the motherboard/RAM or that it's hardware related.


The less you have installed, and that goes for hardware or software, the less chance of problems.

I've already tried stuff like that Isomniac!

It restarted with XP pro so i put home back on it (as i borrowed xp pro of a m8) and seems to be working a hell of a lot better! I think it might be something to do with the cooling of the cpu. I put a fan blowing air from outside directly to the cpu fan via a funnel type thing just before i put home back on. The cpu heat sink seems to stay pretty cool tho. Isn't there a paste or something your supposed to replace every year or so between the cpu and heatsink? could it be that? Thanks all for the help so far. Greatly appriciated.

Hmmmmmmmm???? Why don't you try rereading some posts from the vacuum cleaner guy? :rolleyes:

There is no difference between the XP and XP Pro as far as your problem is concerned.

If you have tried what I just suggested, then that rules out software.

The only way to get to the bottom of this is through a method of elimination.


As far as the thermal paste, that doesn't need to be changed regularly.

Applying it correctly once is sufficient, unless of course you have a thermal pad.

Again, if it's an overheating issue, I would be very surprised that it only does it during gaming, unless off-course the PC remains idle at other times (a fan blowing with a side cover off should soon tell you once you start the game/s in question).

You can try software that stresses and tests your hardware like SiSoftware Sandra, Dr Hardware and Memtest etc to see if it helps?

Just keep the vacuum cleaner away. :laugh:

Pick up some artic silver 5. If you don't have any computer stores nearby that sell it, you can order some at www.newegg.com.
Make sure you clean all the old thermal paste or pad from the bottom of the heatsink. Also remove any trace from the processor. You can use a credit card and some isopropyl alcohol, as well as a lint free cloth. Tutorials are available on the artic silver web site.
If I remember correctly, you said you have an amd processor. The older amd processors do not have a protective cover on them, so make sure you only apply the artic silver to the small square in the middle. Also be very careful seating the heatsink, because the processor is very fragile. Make sure you don't "rock" the heatsink when reinstalling.


http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm


http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

Things i've tried!
-Running mem test from a floppy! (no proplems)
-Ran benchmarks on SiSoft Sandra (no proplems)
-Tried 3 other graphics cards in it (Still restarts)
-Added loadsa fans! (5 at the min) (Still does it!)
-Tried a 450W psu in it instead of the 200w (restarts!)
-Tried running the games on each of the mem sticks (restarts on both)
-Tried using the onboard soundcard instead of the audigy (Restarts)
-Formated drive and reput Xp home back on (still does it)
-Reinstalled directX
-Unpluged 2nd hard drive and cd drive
-Replaced IDE Leads
-Threatened it with an axe and vacuum cleaner

So it's not the:
sound card
IDE Leads
Graphics card
PSU
Overheating

BTW i can't find the right chipset drivers!
Used one form the website Everest gave me and the installer say i don't have any VIA hardwere!

You still haven't ruled out the cpu. Whoever put the heatsink on last may have used crappy paste or a pad. The heatsink may not be attached correctly. You can blow as much air on the heatsink as you want, and if it's not attached properly, or there's a problem with the paste, it will still overheat.
Follow my above instructions about artic silver, (overclockers love the stuff), then if it still reboots, rule out the cpu.
There’s no stress test like actual gaming. Especially with doom 3 and some of the other games you described.
As far as your chipset drivers, here are the latest ones from your motherboard manufacturer. You should also update everything else available except the vga drivers, (video).
After the updates, if it still reboots, go for the artic silver. Also, make sure your motherboard has revision 1.0a printed on it before downloading any of the updates. I believe that’s the only revision on this board anyways.
Make sure your bios is also up to version 1.1a . That’s the latest for your board. It can be downloaded by clicking bios on the top right.






http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?DetailID=61&DetailName=Driver&DetailDesc=L7VMM(1.0A)&MenuID=35&LanID=9

Did the update and it didn't make any difference. Found abou 4 other people with the same mother board as me and the same problem. They had different cpus, grahics cards to me

If you have a VIA chipset, then you should install the VIA 4 in 1 drivers.

From memory, there are two different ones.

One is if you have SATA (Pro version), and the "normal" one if you don't.


I think they're called Hyperion without doing a Google.

Well, Kid, if you are considering getting another motherboard, you may as well try the arctic silver like I suggested. With a new motherboard, you will have to remove the processor anyways.

OMG! It works!!! :luxhello: I changed "set by spd" in the Dram settings to 100MHz and it works. Yay! I dunno why it works now tho. Dodgy memory? I ran mem test overnight and it came up with 36 passes and no errors. Is it going to last??

If you are unsure of the correct Bios settings, just use "Optimised" or "Fail-Safe", then makes sure you save before you exit the Bios menu page.

Let's hope it lasts and that you simply haven't just removed a bit of load from the machine?

Good luck, and keep the vacuum cleaner away from it. :laugh:

BTW, is your memory really 100MHZ?

If not, all you have done is lower the RAM's speed, which explains why it's not doing it anymore as you've simply made it run slower.


I'd like to see an Everest Log (system summary), but you can't copy and paste it as it's too large. (and this crappy site won't let you attach things)

If you can link it to a site so I can view it, then that would be good.


Again, Optimised or Fail Safe should set the Bios up correctly if you're unsure.

I don't know what memory is in it. The computer seems the same to me, the only thing i've noticed is it shuts down faster. I'll post the Everest log 2moz. I'll make a freewebs site up for it. I e-mailed Elite and they said there is 266MHz memory in it and told me to try some 133MHz mem in it.

If you can post a log, I'll have a look at it for you.

In the meantime, try Fail-Safe or Optimised settings in your Bios.

Finding it difficult to find a way of getting the report to you :bang: It's very long so i can't post it here and i can't host it on freewebs as you have to have the account for 7 days to upload anything above 750Kb at once. I'm happy to wait 7 days unless you know another way.

I have tried Load optimized default and fail safe loads of times before and it does not help it.

A system summary in plain text shouldn't be anywhere near 750 KB.

Anyway, if you have to wait, you have to wait.

Glad you got things set Kid, but one thing doesn't make sense. You said you ran memtest with no problems before you slowed down the memory???

Things i've tried!
-Running mem test from a floppy! (no proplems)
-Ran benchmarks on SiSoft Sandra (no proplems)
-Tried 3 other graphics cards in it (Still restarts)
-Added loadsa fans! (5 at the min) (Still does it!)

http://freewebs.com/koolkid999/Report4forumscdromguide.htm

Apart from the dodgy copy of Windows (I don't want to know, and you get the benefit of the doubt), you have a lot of crappy settings and software installed, but nothing that relates to your problem.

Some of your drivers however, are outdated.

First, install the VIA 4 in 1 drivers (http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VIA_4in1_443v.zip) for your chipset. (direct link from HERE (http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=1&CatID=1070))

Then update your Creative SoundCard and nVidia drivers to the latest ones, and make sure you are using FailSafe or Optimised Settings in the Bios.


*Your video card is underpowered, and your motherboard is crappy*

Wow, this thread has gotten way to repetitious. Kid,if you got the problem straightened out by slowing the memory, fine. But if you try to say you didn't receive any errors running mem test before slowing the memory, :nono:

That could still be possible.

If you don't understand how, there's no point trying to explain it.

Possible, but highly unlikely.

How is it highly unlikely?

It's very likely, that's what is supposed to happen.

Running mem test with a supported chip set should have produced errors if there was indeed a problem with the memory speed.
If he did something wrong, or didn't realize what the errors were, that would explain him thinking there were no problems.

If I'm wrong, enlighten me in your ever so humble way :)

Geezz I thought you guys would have given up by now on this.. have you back tracked some of the threads on here, looks like a run around thread got you hooked !!

Everything has been tried it seems including:
installing the wrong mobo drivers(my Mistake there)
a change of RAM type SDRAM to DDR,
a faulty PSU change,
cooling the CPU,
changing the Graphics cards....

Are you thirsty for more ... :bang:

Hence my comment about a repetitious thread :)

I e-mailed Elite and they said there is 266MHz memory in it and told me to try some 133MHz mem in it.

yea that bit made me smile ;) My mistake on the chipset tho, I thought it was a SIS board

an SDRAM to DDR conversion lol, the board only supports DDR if its as its suppose to be, L7VMM

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?MenuID=16&LanID=0&DetailID=61&DetailName=Specification

Or take your pick....

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/SiteMap/SearchResult.aspx?q=L7VMM&f=Products&MenuID=0&LanID=0

I ran mem test before the memory was slowed down. Loaded optimized defualts and it's restarting again.

I think i need a new computer :bang:

Why not just start another run around thread... start it off with..

Hi my DVD/cdr has stopped reading disks what can i do

or

I cant get a disk to copy, it was okay yesterday but now its stopped, any ideas ?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now that you mention it my cd writer screws up if you record over 12x lol

hmmm why was I expecting that one !!!!!

Edit
Back to GameHunter and Inso to close this shite Pizz takin thread down :p

I think it's something to do with this crappy motherboard

I was going to start another thread about the cd writer but i've decided to wait untill i get a new motherboard

"Apart from the dodgy copy of Windows (I don't want to know, and you get the benefit of the doubt), you have a lot of crappy settings and software installed, but nothing that relates to your problem."

What is dodgy about it? I took my product key off the everest report is that what is dodgy about it?

Nuttapper, I agree. Time to put this thread out of its misery :)

Reason I said it was dodgy, is because it said Activation not required.

Which means you either are using a corporate licence, which is unlikely, or it's pirated.

As I said, I don't want to know.

Anyway, I'll leave you to GameHunter, he knows what he's talking about. :laugh:

:laugh: I hope this thread doesn't keep restarting like his fooking computor :laugh:

This has got to go down as one of the best pizz takes for ages guys... :cool:

You've been well had by the to$$er..

"Reason I said it was dodgy, is because it said Activation not required."

do you think it might be because i've activated it already? you don't want to know but i do!

Or it could be the oem version that came with the computer and activation wasn't required. :splat:

Thanks for the vote of confidence Insomniac :flower:

Thread closed: (I hope) :)

Don't thank me GameHunter, it was you who attacked me first for NO reason.

I don't like backstabbers, especially those that do it for no reason, and contribute little to this dump.

Point made. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.