Hello

Does the below mean that my new just out of the box sony cd-rw is ready for trash can?


Details
Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 7
Source: Cdrom
Version: 5.2
Symbolic Name: IO_ERR_BAD_BLOCK
Message: The device, %1, has a bad block.

Explanation
The device has a bad block of memory, which Windows attempted to read. The data might be missing or corrupted.


User Action
Do one or all of the following:

Retry the operation.
Clean the physical hard drive.
Use newer media.



Version: 5.0
Component: System Event Log
Symbolic Name: IO_ERR_BAD_BLOCK
Message: The device, %1, has a bad block.

Explanation
The device has a bad block of memory, which Windows attempted

Although anything can fail, chances are it's not the drive itself.

Try different brand of media. (most likely)

Uninstall the drive in Device Manager and reboot. Make sure there are no errors in there, and all your drives are using DMA mode.


If that fails, post back with exact details, as in when and how you get this error, what burning programs you have installed, and what you've tried etc.

Insomiac





(1 -) [ Try different brand of media. (most likely)]

Its a simulation game that giving the error. (Combat Flight Simulator 2)


(2 - ) [Uninstall the drive in Device Manager and reboot. Make sure there are no errors in there, and all your drives are using DMA mode.]

I uninstalled drive and rebooted (No Joy). There are errors in device manager (two unknown devices under other devices , yellow question marks) Theres no place to do the DMA mode deal in drive properities.

Enable ditital CD audio for this CD-ROM device is checked , is this a problem?

( 3 - ) [If that fails, post back with exact details, as in when and how you get this error, what burning programs you have installed, and what you've tried etc.]

Field Value
Device Properties
Driver Description SONY CD-RW CRX230E (Its got crx230A-U on box)
Driver Date 7/1/2001
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File cdrom.inf
Hardware ID IDE\CdRomSONY_CD-RW__CRX230E_____________________QYS1____
Location Information Secondary ATA Channel

I tried it (the game cd) on another computer and theres no errors , going to take a cd-rom drive out of another computer and try it today.

later
harley

DMA is accessed via the drives controller in Device Manager, and not through the drive itself.

In Device Manager, it's under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers, then double-click the controller in question, then Advanced Settings tab. (DMA should be available for all drives, including the hard drive).


You need to sort out the unknown devices. Make sure you don't have any hardware listed twice (Unless you have a Hyperthreaded CPU etc), and that all your hardware is listed correctly with no errors.

Try uninstalling the unknown devices and reboot.

Is the drive itself listed with an error, or is it other devices? (Digital CD audio wouldn't be causing this).

Do other CD's work OK?


I can't really offer anything specific without having it here in front of me.

You will have to go through all the items in Device Manager to work out the culprit. Did you install the correct motherboard drivers?


CD/DVD drives don't require drivers, you just physically install them, and Windows does the rest, so there's not much you can do wrong.


Check the Driver Details for the "Unknown Devices", and your Bios for clues.

Insomniac

Will get back soon , working on find the DMA deal and installing other stuff to see if i get the error.
later
harley

Insomniac


[In Device Manager, it's under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers, then double-click the controller in question, then Advanced Settings tab. (DMA should be available for all drives, including the hard drive).]

I found it and it is set on the DMA.


[]Try uninstalling the unknown devices and reboot.

Is the drive itself listed with an error, or is it other devices? (Digital CD audio wouldn't be causing this).]

You were right about the omega drivers , the unknown device was the omega driver so i closed my eyes and installed the ati drivers now no yellow marks.
The cd-r/rw in device manager says that it is working properly.


[Do other CD's work OK?]

Yes i tried microsoft combat flight simulator (cfs) and cfs3 and meckwarrior and a few more and none of them left a error in event viewer , and it works on other computers just want work on this one (the one i built)
i copied some stuff to a new cd no problem. Dadburn it things happen to my computers that no one has ever heard of. I still say that it is a xp problem of some sort.
Well thanks again and if you think of anything please let me know.
harley

So we are on the same page, you now don't have any errors in Device Manager? (Make sure you have uninstalled the Omega drivers completely though, as they will come back to haunt you.)

And the problem now is that a particular game CD won't play?

Which game, and what is it doing, or not, exactly etc?

Insomniac


I went over to one of the forums (cfs2 players) and heres what i got:

[The error is normal. CFS2's copy protection consists of a deliberate "bad" sector on the disk. If the sector is NOT damaged, (the original) cfs2.exe assumes it is NOT an original disk.]. Does this sound right to you?
It sure makes me wonder why it does not do the samething on my other computers.

[So we are on the same page, you now don't have any errors in Device Manager? (Make sure you have uninstalled the Omega drivers completely though, as they will come back to haunt you]

I did a search for omega in xp and deleted everthing and also in registry and deleted everything omega i could find.

[And the problem now is that a particular game CD won't play?
Which game, and what is it doing, or not, exactly etc?]

The game is "Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 2" . When i put the disk in cd-r/rw to play game i get a error in my event viewer that says "cdRom has a bad block". Link to screenshot below.
harley

The best way to remove Omega drivers, like most graphics drivers, would have been through Add/Remove.

Anyway, too late now, but you know next time to always check Add/Remove or the programs uninstall entry.


Regarding Micro$$oft Combat Flight Simulator, I'm still not certain of your problem.

What happens exactly when you play the CD? Does the game install, but won't play?

Does the CD spin, but then you get an error? Or nothing at all happens? etc


I don't think it's the copy protection used (almost all games have copy protection), but it could be.

Also, different drives have different lasers, with different degrees of sensitivity.

Playing on one drive, and not another, isn't conclusive unfortunately.


BTW, can you access the CD's contents at all, via My Computer or Explorer for example?

It would be great if you can swap your CD/DVD drive around on your other PC for trouble-shooting.

That would soon tell you if it's the drive, PC, or game itself.

Insomniac


[The best way to remove Omega drivers, like most graphics drivers, would have been through Add/Remove.]

I removed them through Add/Remove then i did a search for them at Start/search and deleted , then went into regedit and searched for omega with the F3 key and deleted anything that had omega in it.




[What happens exactly when you play the CD? Does the game install, but won't play?]

The game installs and seems to be play right , it just puts a error entry in my event viewer

[It would be great if you can swap your CD/DVD drive around on your other PC for trouble-shooting]

Thats what i am doing now , as you know i have not put a cd-rom in my new built computer yet and cd-rom is what i use to play the game with , well i was checking out the cd-rom in another computer in hopes of taking it out and putting it in my new computer and it has problems to , shoot , If the XP O/S is not installed right will it effect cd-rom and cd-r-rw drives?

I got all my important stuff stored on two CD-RW Disks , and this d_ _ _m
cd-rom drive will not read them noway nohow , when i put the disk in the light comes on and i see the little record icon come on next to the cursor likes its getting ready to show me whats on the disk then all of a sudden the light gos off and nothing else happens , so i try to open it in explorer and get "Please insert disk in drive E:\" go figure.
I have tried at least 35 CD-R disks in it and it reads them , but as soon as i put a CD-RW disk in it want read.

Well i am going to do the swapping around like you said.
later
harley

PS: If the cd-rom drive is on a computer with XP home and it dont work why would it work on another computer with XP Home?
Oh! i tried it in safe mode , done same thing.

"If the XP O/S is not installed right will it effect cd-rom and cd-r-rw drives?"

Depends on what "isn't installed right".


Regarding the game, if it installs and plays OK, but gives you an Event Viewer error, I wouldn't worry about it.

If it does it with other CD/DVD's, then you've got a problem, but not if it only does it with one.


Don't know why you can't read the CDRW's. You'll just have to go through a method of elimination to isolate the culrpit.

Good luck.