I keep reading posts about the liteon, and I must say I wasn't very keen on this burner when I first read about it, mainly because of its very low price.

In England, I can find a Liteon24x priced around 70-80 pounds, while the "popular" brands sell their product at at least 30 pounds up.

So, is it ONLY the name that makes it a cheap burner in price, or there are other things as well?
I'm a bit tight of money right now, and if I can save 30 pounds or something close to that I'd be more than happy.

However, does it really work fine and can cope with all the usual stuff one would want it to work? How about Clone CD and Nero, can it take advantage of all their capabilities?

Thank you for your replies and sorry if its a boring post!

I have the liteon 24x and i personally think its an excellent piece of kit.
It works fine with clonecd and nero
Nero i use solely for mp3's and clonecd for games.
I also use Easy cd 5 occasionally and have no problems there.
I have recommended this drive to a friend he bought one and he is a very happy chappy.

Thumbs up on this burner.
Good points.

Low Cost
Clone cd compatible
Nero compatible
Writes Raw ( no worries about protected games )
Fast
Quiet

Bad Points

Can't think of any.

I compared The Plextor 24x with the Liteon 24x
via CDR info webpage and they both had there good points and there bad points.

But for 70 notes for a 24x writer can't be bad.
I actually paid £109 for mine and that was money well spent.

cheers mate, I know, for 70 quid it simply can not be bad.
I read on the cdr info page that the reading times using clone cd are very bad, how bad would you say they are?

I have a yamaha 16x now, it should be better than that, isn't it?

I too use the LiteOn 24X and as mrmojo said it's the biz!

LiteOn make CDRW's for many companies and they just re-badge them. The Plextor drive is made by LiteOn, it's just better quality plastic with a fan on the back. Mirror drives are re-badged LiteOn's etc, etc.

I thought that I would never use anything other than a Plextor drive but I am so glad that I got over brand loyalty. You can buy them for £70 from http://www.ebuyer.com/ and IMHO you can't go wrong. I use mine every single day for a minimum of 30-40 discs and it never lets me down, I record on 8X media at 24X after the latest firmware upgrade (5S54) and am a very happy user.

Why waste your money on another drive I ask. :D

I hear that they are quite good, i was put off by the low price such as yourself. However i have taken the plunge and have gone for a 32x liteon so we will see what that is like when i get it.

The 32x burner is only about 20 secs faster than the 24x.

I am using Liteon and it is very good, the only thing it cant properly write are cdg files :(

whats a cdg file??
I'll be using it to copy audio and games, how well does it cope with Playstation (mixed mode) games??

Ya I also wanna know if this writer can do Playstation games, and also svcd movies. Anyone have any info on that?

Well here is my comment on the drive, I've used several different drives now (Do not ask me why, but I was also choosen as a mod for a lite-on forum at another board :p).

Positive:
No fan=no noise, It don't get hot anyway.
VERY good media compatibility(especially with the newest firmware version).
Makes backups of all protected PC games (except CD-Cops protected games which no writers could successfully defeat in ALL cases).
CD-TEXT compatible
Makes backups of most console games(playstation.....)
Fast cloneCD reader(CD-R Info tested with an old firmware version).
Not that expensive
Probably some things that I forgot

Negative:
Do not support READING some types of protected audio discs(It do write them properly though)
CD-RW disc reading is locked to 16X
Maybe I forgot somthing to:round:

I have only and its the dogs bollo*ks!

No coasters yet, any media, most goes at 24x no problem. No problems that havent been able to be sorted. Does SD2 games, cheap, what more do you want from a cd burner? :)

What Can I Say What No One has said--------BUY IT........Worth Every Penny. GO ON!!! BUY IT NOW.
Have a Good 2002, Happy Copying. (when you have bought the Lite-On 24x10x40, you'll never look back.):tup:

Thank you all guys for the replies!!
I placed the order on Sunday, I'll probably get it by thursday!! (tight c*nt, didn't wanna pay an extra 10pounds for next day!) :)


From what I've read here and the reviews as well, it will be my favorite burner so far! :D :D :D

timoros, you won't be sorry Bud, it worried me that I had never heard of it and was cheap too, but after taking the advice of many here I ordered it. I couldn't be happier. They are much cheaper now but that is the way it goes. I prolly would have spent more than that on games and cd's for the kids anyway. Mine works great on any media I stuff in it and I am still using the first firmware. It wasn't broke so I didn't fix it.

Speck

thanx speculator, I've already placed the order and I should have it with me by thursday! I read that most people are happy with it and so I bought it, I guess it will not dissapoint me! :round: :round: :round:

Originally posted by timoros
thanx speculator, I've already placed the order and I should have it with me by thursday! I read that most people are happy with it and so I bought it, I guess it will not dissapoint me! :round: :round: :round:

Please tell us how you feel about it. Installation problems? Or anything else that is worth mentioning. Even positive stuff!

U48

Just a quick note IMOH I have installed a lieton 24 speed writer only a few days ago and I was that impressed with it I went and bought the company! LOL
no seriously I went and bought 2 more and now all my writers are 24 speed I have burnt in excess of 200+ discs and no coasters and am acheiving perfect copies every time (all are copies are from originals I might add)
but I am definalty a fan have in the past had only Plextor and after reading about the fantastic reviews on this forum I bought a 16 speed liteon never looked back.. so had no hesitation in getting the 24 speed
and just to add good measure I am now a memeber of the Lieton fan club cause ive just got the Lieton 16 speed DVDrom.

what do I think BUY BUY BUY as said many times above u WONT be disapointed. one happy Bunny :)

I just put a liteon 24X burner in my girlfriends computer and I can not get Adaptec EZCD 5.0 to work with it. It says that there are no recognizable burners. Any suggestions?

It works fine with Nero.

You guys are a great help in buying something. Last year this time, I was searching for my very first burner...Plextor's 8x4x32a...this year it's time to step up with the big dogs.

I have an order placed for this drive and if it's all that you guys and others say it is, I'm going to be VERY HAPPY!!

Thanks!
Kim

Hi,

The LiteOn's 24102b 24x10x40x and 32123s 32x12x40x are one of the few CD-RW that can backup the latest PC-CD SafeDisc v2.51.021 copy protection using CloneCD v3.3.4.1. CD-RW's like Phillips, Acer (I think) and Plextor 24x aren't now able to backup the latest SafeDisc

I have the 24x at work and 32x at home and can't fault them at all, just waiting for some CD software companies to update versions to recognise the 32x like DirectCD and CDRWin v4.0a.

Cheerz :) :D ;)

Originally posted by ROCKN SS
I just put a liteon 24X burner in my girlfriends computer and I can not get Adaptec EZCD 5.0 to work with it. It says that there are no recognizable burners. Any suggestions?

It works fine with Nero.


hi there
you'll need to update easy cd 5.0 with the update 5.2
go to the roxio site and get the update
It works fine with mine.
You'll have to register with roxio but that ain't no big deal.

mrmojo

Originally posted by timoros
cheers mate, I know, for 70 quid it simply can not be bad.
I read on the cdr info page that the reading times using clone cd are very bad, how bad would you say they are?

I have a yamaha 16x now, it should be better than that, isn't it?

Hi timoros
You'll most probably have your writer by now and will burning away merrily.
But the answer to your question .
Read speeds in clone cd i found have been very good.
SD2 if you have the fast error settings on 3 retrys it can take for ages but i have them the default settings which is 0 i think and i have had no problems back up safedisc 2.

The longest time i've had doing a pc game is 45mins to read the image and this was a vob protection which was cdcheck or something like that , but as i said before everything i've tried to copy i have.

Once again Excellent drive
Happy Burning

mrmojo

Hello all, I'm back with news about my new beauty!!!
First of all, what I got was the drive, 1 CDR, 1 CDRW, an audio cable and also a CD with some programms, which I won't use since I already have nero anyway!

Right.. so.... I installed the drive with no difficulty whatsoever.
I placed it on my second IDE cable as Secondary Master.
Primary master is my HDD and slave the DVD.

The drive was recognised immediately, and I used a variety of disks to check how it will respond.

First of all, my previous burner, the Yamaha 2100e (16x) would only write at 16x a 0,5% of the times I was trying to burn at 16x. It would give me an error and the burn (or the simulation) would fail.

The Liteon managed to burn at 24x for 19/19 times!! EXCELLENT!! Furthermore, I had no problems with buffer underuns, I had the BURN proof (actually Smart Burn) on but it needn't take action as the buffer was at 98% at all times, even though I had mp3 playback *****AN****** 2GB worth of movie transfers between our dorm LAN. (incoming data to my HDD).

I tested with CloneCD and Nero. Both worked great and I am really, REALLY happy about my purchase, the final price I paid was 77GBP (70 and 7 was for delivery).

I haven't had the time to test with PS2 disks, but I will do that as soon as I get my hands on some... I have 3 games and they are all DVD Roms, so no luck.

No testing with Safedisk 2 as well, because I was busy copying some other games and audio disks.


I sold my Yamaha 16x to my brother for 60 pounds (before I even decide which burner to get) and I feel bad.. I think I'm going to buy him a Liteon for his birthday (10 Feb) to make him happy!!

24x RULEZZZ!!!

The read speed is really amazing as well... The Yammy took a while for the laser to pick up data, and it was so slowwwwwwwwwww and noissssssssssssssssssy. This beauty here is FAST and SILENT. WHAT MORE CAN I ASK?????

PS: of course I removed the small www.liteon.com sticker that the drive had... I find it ridiculous to just have a WWW. thing instead of the name, so, away it went!! It still has a 24x10x40x logo painted on the plastic!


I'm a very VERY satisfied customer till now.....
I only hope I won't have any problem with it, because from what I've heard their support SUX.....

All us Litey users out there just knew you would be happy with it m8! :tup:

I bought another so I could write to two at a time today! :D

It just makes so much sense.:D :D :D

Mind you, I would upgrade the firmware to "5S54" if I was you m8. I found after doing so that it will write to any old media then. :tup:

LAzza, how do I find out what firmware my burner is?
I've also heard that 5s54 doesn't cope well with SD2..

Originally posted by timoros
LAzza, how do I find out what firmware my burner is?
I've also heard that 5s54 doesn't cope well with SD2..
When your PC boots up m8 and finds all your H/W it will list your HD and CD drives and show the firmware number.

Or if you go into "Device manager" click on your LiteOn, then select the settings tab you will see on the top right the heading "Firmware version" giving you just that.

As regards SD2 copying, I've only really done a few but from others I understand that it does take slightly longer with this firmware but is more reliable. If and when you do upgrade it m8, remember to disable DMA first and re-enable it after the upgrade or it can cause some serious damage to your drive.

Hope this helps. :)

funnlie enough i also have this writer an i think its good for the price and what product your finished with =)

Like Lazza said, never doubted it for a min. I like you just stuffed it in and off I went. I am still using the 01 firmware with no problem at all. :tup:

Speck

Firmware 5S54 is the best firmware to use. No problems with Safedisc 2 and also the new SD 2.51.x version:tup:

I recently purchased this drive and would like to know if anyone has had any problems replaying audio cds burned at 12X+...thanks!

I've never had any problems related to audio becuase of the speed they were burnt at...
With the Liteon, I've copied more than 15 CDs of Audio to friends of mine and have no complains whatsoever!! :)

I have to get a Liteon burner, im tired of my 4x sony burner. I hate SONY!!!!!!!!:furious: Which is better a Liteon 24x or an Hp 24x ???


<<AcE SS>>:cheers:

There were a few people that told me that some audio cds burnt above 12x wouldn't play in their cd players (home, car, personal, comp). I wouldn't know since my burner "was" only 8X. That will be great, I burn almost 50 Audio cds a week! now it'll only take a day or two!!

Thanks guys!

(btw...I just ordered the Black LiteOn 16x DVD drive, hope it's going to be as good as my Black 24X!) :D

Originally posted by jointzjunkie
There were a few people that told me that some audio cds burnt above 12x wouldn't play in their cd players (home, car, personal, comp). I wouldn't know since my burner "was" only 8X. That will be great, I burn almost 50 Audio cds a week! now it'll only take a day or two!!

Thanks guys!

(btw...I just ordered the Black LiteOn 16x DVD drive, hope it's going to be as good as my Black 24X!) :D
You will love it m8! :tup:

Dare I say it but my LiteOn DVD Ltd-163 has barely even seen a DVD in it!! :D

I bought it pure and simple as a reader for audio. The DAE on this drive is great. I don't find it quite so great as a reader for data compared with my old Sony CDU5211 52X CD-Rom (which is pure class for data IMHO), but there's only little difference so I now use the LiteOn for both and freed up a drive bay.

But for audio it's the biz! :cool:

Hello!

I've got a question for those who use Liteon + Nero..

Why I cannot see "Test" and "Test and Burn" as active but only "Burn" in Nero (latest).
Is there any patches or options I have to change?
I mean, how to Test in Nero on Liteon..

in reply to previous posts regariding burning Audio discs
I have burnt my auidos at 24 speed and done over 150 and not one has come back saying it jumps
However I used have this problem with the Plex and had to drop down the speed to 12
as mentioned before I am one happy bunny I also have the Liteon DVD drive and like others it hasnt seen a DVD and never will just use if for Audio Long Live Lieton !!
:tup:

Originally posted by komp
Hello!

I've got a question for those who use Liteon + Nero..

Why I cannot see "Test" and "Test and Burn" as active but only "Burn" in Nero (latest).
Is there any patches or options I have to change?
I mean, how to Test in Nero on Liteon..

Helloooo! Pleeesee! I need this damn "test" thing...
How to enable it in Nero?:furious:

You may be able to run a test burn if you disable the buffer underrun protection first.

hello mate, I don't have the latest version of Nero, but the one I have shows all the options.. What firmware is your burner??


Guys, I'm thinking to buy the Liteon DVD for the DAE.. Is it fast enough to allow me to burn on the fly at 24x with its "brother", the Liteon burner?

Originally posted by timoros



Guys, I'm thinking to buy the Liteon DVD for the DAE.. Is it fast enough to allow me to burn on the fly at 24x with its "brother", the Liteon burner?
No worries at there m8! In fact I'd go as far to say that it's the perfect partner IMO.

They were made for each other. :D

Originally posted by Lazza
I too use the LiteOn 24X and as mrmojo said it's the biz!

LiteOn make CDRW's for many companies and they just re-badge them. The Plextor drive is made by LiteOn, it's just better quality plastic with a fan on the back. Mirror drives are re-badged LiteOn's etc, etc.

I thought that I would never use anything other than a Plextor drive but I am so glad that I got over brand loyalty. You can buy them for £70 from http://www.ebuyer.com/ and IMHO you can't go wrong. I use mine every single day for a minimum of 30-40 discs and it never lets me down, I record on 8X media at 24X after the latest firmware upgrade (5S54) and am a very happy user.

Why waste your money on another drive I ask. :D

Who says liteon makes plextor drives? :confused:

What I meant was Devil-Man that LiteOn make most of the guts of the Plextor drives. No, they are not exactly the same drives and that has been made clear by some of the SD 2.51 results flying around at the mo by people who have made perfect copies of MOH with the LiteOn 24X drive but Plextor owners have had more than a few problems.

I had my doubts about Plextor drives being made by LiteOn but I have spoken to several hardware importers who have confirmed it 100%. Maybe they are wrong, which I doubt, but I'm not taking my drives apart to prove it one way or another m8! :D :D :D

Ah ok, i see what you're saying now. :tup:

Originally posted by Devil-Man
Ah ok, i see what you're saying now. :tup:
I wish I did m8, I wish I did at times! :cheers:

I just wish I'd not bothered with upgrading my PC case tonight I guess!!! But the lure of *6*, yes *6* 5.25 bays just would not hold me back!!! :bggift:

thanx man, I'll probably but the DVD as well!!!
BurnOn, LiteOn!!!!!!!!

:round: :round: :round: :round: :round:

Well, since it's like the LiteOn user post :D, I just installed my drive and burned my first 700MB cd in 4 1/2 mins! :)

Great burner!

Thanks guys!
Mike

Originally posted by jointzjunkie
I recently purchased this drive and would like to know if anyone has had any problems replaying audio cds burned at 12X+...thanks!

Not a problem yet. I do have a bud with a Toyota Tundra that needs some disks reinserted sometimes before it plays but it doesn't matter what burner it was burned in or what speed it was burned at they all do it sometimes. The only common link in the problem is this 2 yr old Tundra

Speck

I have a Sony CDX M700R for my car, and it can get picky about the cdrs I put inside, so there might be a media problem as well with your Toyota Tundra...

I'm sure you'll have no problems if you just change the media you're using into something more reliable, thats what I did and it plays like a beauty now!! :)

I use a lite-on 24x only problem I've had is the cd tray opening on its own when I was tinkering about with my PC putting another HD in apparently its something to do with the via chipset on some mobo's (mine being Abit Kr7A), apart from that I cant fault it and will be getting another 1 very soon

the tray was opening on its own?? I've never heard this thing before.. Have you tried updating the firmware and flash your BIOS?

Originally posted by timoros
the tray was opening on its own?? I've never heard this thing before.. Have you tried updating the firmware and flash your BIOS?
It's an Abit/LiteOn 24X problem but I think it can be sorted by a BIOS update IIRC.

just been out and bought this drive for myself £72. It is to replace the exellent 12101B that never let me down (any1 want 2 buy it?).
The firmware that was installed in my 24x10x40 already is 5S54. Just thought i'd let you know as i didn't have to flash my drive.

Johntin how much are you looking at for your 12101B? Does it have burnproof or any kind of such protection?
email me at nikos@nitropolo.com

hello all!
I got my burner on the 26th, and until now I've burnt more than 400+ CDs, all of which work fine!

This drive is really an investment, and I'm certainly buying another one for my other computer any time soon (probably after getting the Liteon DVD as well!!)

The only problem I've noticed is that some times after its been burning for a while, say one hour straight or a bit more, when it tries to write the laser will not pick up and the led will only be red for less than a sec, than back to dark, then red etc... This happens during LeadIn in cloneCD

Sometimes this will last about a minute and then carry on with the actual burning process. But there are a few times that it has actually made my computer freeze, and it was NOT cool.. I'm used to Win2K being stable and don't bother saving my work often...

But I was doing that website update thing and it made lose around 45 mins of work.

Apart from that its a great burner already. Highly reccomended!

I’ve been using one for several months. I haven’t had a single problem with it. I’ve recently upgraded the firmware (apparently, to make it even more compatible). It copied to every disk I’ve inserted without complaint. Unlike the Memorex 12Maxx and the Acer 1208A I had before it.

I’d definitely recommend one. :)

You can read all about it here:-
http://www.cdrinfo.com/hardware/liteon24102/index.shtml

Hi everyone
Big hello to timoros keep up the good work my friend
and yes get the Dvd player it's a match made in heaven.
or in you PC.

Well it looks like the verdicts in


LITEON The main man , the big cheese ,

I really do need to get out more.

All the best people
mrmojo

ahh, the ever present mrmojo!! Heh!! Thanx for your kind words mate!
I'll be back as the original timoros in 6 days.... ;)
The refferee sent me off!!!

I had that problem with the tray ejecting like 3 weeks ago.....
I remember someone mentioned it in page 4 or something.....

No matter what I did, I couldn't fix it so I bought another one!

How many CDRs did you burn per hour straight? These drives don't like to burn constantly, I have that from LiteON's site. They say you should rest the burner between burns. Anyway, I read somewhere that the tray problem was fixed recently.

How was your experience with CD-RWs? I do most of my burning for backup purposes and haven't had very reliable results with high-speed CD-RWs (burning at 10X).

I've been burning straight for 5hrs without any breaks with both my LTR-24102B's without any problems at all :D I wrote over 120 CD's at that 5 hrs. without any coasters at all.

Aw, and I've only burnt about 60 discs today with my pair of Liteys.:(

But I have had quite a few coffee breaks OC. :D

BTW, just checked in at the CDFreaks board OC. Have you had any answers yet from anyone who has really flashed their 24X upto a 32X?

My Gawd, OC-Freak, you should call yourself CD-Freak!!!

How many CDs have you burnt on the Liteon 24X so far?! Are they good with CD-RWs?

Five weeks after buying a Liteon 24102b I bought another for the second computer.
Both came with latest bios and I haven't produced a single coaster.
I waited a couple of months reading with interest the comments on this and other boards before I bought the first one and I have had no problems at all.
Whilst I am fairly new to this, it was the comments on this board that made me decide on the Liteon and I am delighted with it.
I'm not a major burner, the first one has only burnt around a 1000 (various audio, pc and games) I haven't managed to cook one (and believe me I've tried).
An excellent burner, available for around £70 and worth every penny.
Thraphosid.

yes brill burner hardly ever trips up look forward to getting 32x later

liteon 24x kicks *** and if its a newer version it can write at 32x or so I hear by simply changing the firmware

Just placed an order 4 a Liteon 241040 2day & seems a wicked buy after reading all theses post just a quick qurie..... I want 2 purchase another drive 2 go with it but not sure what 2 get ?
I could go 4 another Liteon 241040 so I could burn double the amount but most of U are saying the Liteon DVD is the perfect compo.

Any advice would B helpful ? P.S whats a DAE ?

Thanking U all in advance

where is the cheapest/best place to buy one of these drives?

i think a 24x would do fine, plus i have a liteon 16x dvd rom so would be cool to have a set.

cheers

i've seen the 32x version for £51.70
and the 40x version for £59.93.
the actual page,below and i don't work for them.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_CD_DVD_10.html


or the home page

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

DAE stands for "Digital Audio Extraction" JEDI, and the LiteOn Ltd-163 DVD drive is about the best audio/data reader on the market.

Originally posted by Lazza
DAE stands for "Digital Audio Extraction" JEDI, and the LiteOn Ltd-163 DVD drive is about the best audio/data reader on the market.

as long as the disc is not scratched - the error correction is not so good.:tdown:

Oh my God, when I first created this thread I didn't know it will be so popular so many months later!!!

Anyways, up to now, I honestly must have burnt something close to 2000 disks, all with my second Liteon because the first one had the tray ejecting problem.

Anyone found any solution for it yet?...

Nice to see my thread surviving through all those pages of our forum!!!
Makes me feel special!! :) (i might as well start crying now!!) hahaaha!! :)

and out of the almost 2000 disks, I might have had 10 or 15 coasters... Which is quite an achievement!

I don't usually use CDRWs though so I can not really comment on that... sorry!

Wow! I think I gonna get a liteon, my brother just bought a Plex16x and you can get a liteon for half the price.

I have Liteon 24x its almost 5 months old lately My PC hungs when I burn using winoncd. Do you guys experience that? Anyone knows how to fix it?

Originally posted by plexy


as long as the disc is not scratched - the error correction is not so good.:tdown:

True enough - I have both the Lite-ON LTR-40125S and the LTD-163 and the DVD-ROM does indeed have poor error correction (lots of C2 errors revealed in CD Speed) compared to the burner and the old Toshiba Xm-6502B on my wife's computer. OTOH, it's a great drive to weed out marginal media.

I been looking to upgrade my Sony 140E (x8) - looks like the Liteon is the one for me ... one question though ... will it overburn on 90min media ?

thanks

cast

from what I know, it can overburn on 90min media, yes..

For the problem with CDRwin, I don't use this so I can't really say....

Well, for its money its definitely a very good burner!!

It supports overburning right upto 99mins.

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Yo Guys & Gals: Have been looking at all kinds of ads to purchase a cdrw to replace my old HP9510i and GOSH..after reading every one of these posts, just had to register and say THANKS Y'ALL for all the positive comments! All of you just made the decision for me! :-) Gotta go buy one NOW!

Thanks for the overburn info mates - Liteon here I come !!!

yes m8 cant go wrong at price

i got mine back in oct 2001 and had no problems whatsoever and was very happy, untill now when its just decided to burn coasters or not even burn at all :( , but excellent customer services from where i bought it are now going to give me a full refund which i'm very happy about as i paid over £100 for it and can now get the same for £55...lol

but i am going to stay with this superb product well i'm probably going to upgrade to the 32/40 x

where did you get it from mate? anyone had some experience with e-buyer customer services...?

Let me just say this... I've used Nero with this drine (5.5) at max speed and have burned at 24x on 12x media without a single error! A real steal!!!