burning playstation games/what cdr's to use?

[ericweller79]

OK.... :furious:

1) i need to know how to set up nero 5.5 to burn copies of playstation games?

2) What cdr's do you use for copying playstation games?

3) where can you download free play station games on the net?

Thanks people... hope you can help... email if you can. :mail: . so i know i get it!

Eric! :furious:

[ray-comp]

verbathem is by far the best media to use
Ray:)

[king nero]

· nero is not made for duplicating psx, only the non-protected games will work. use cdrwin or clone.
· and use verb's or maxell, both 74 min/650 MB, rather than 80 min/700 MB
· try the iso folder for the 3rd ?

http://users.skynet.be/kingnero/leftstart/kn.jpg (http://users.skynet.be/kingnero)

[psibob84]

if you want to go for realism go for traxdata black bottom CDR's
but if you want quality go for either verbatim or kodac CDR's

[420]

(1) Nero can copy PSX games just as well as CDRWin ... what kingnero said is partially incorrect: ONLY CloneCD can copy PSX games with protection and all - CDRWin has no more abilities than Nero in this area. To copy with Nero, check for a tutorial here, should be one. Basically, set it to IGNORE ILLEGAL TOC, DATA MODE 2 - RAW ... better to rip to an image and then burn the image as opposed to burning on-the-fly. If u have problems with ur backups, try lowering the Write speed.

(2) Just about any CDs will do. I consider Verbatim DataLifes to be the best and they're all I use for my own burning. However, I have tested Verb ValuLifes, TDK, Acer, CompUSA, "silvers" (unbranded media) ... and all worked on my PSX with varying degrees of quality ... basically, stay away from: PNY Technologies, "silvers", and Prime Peripherals - they're all crap.

(3) Check the ISO folders. There are many ways but those other ways aren't discussed here. ;)

[king nero]

I'm sorry 420, I don't want to debate this over, but i' ve used both the proggies for years now, i'm even a big fan of nero due to its fairly unlimited (regular) data and audio capabilities.
You're right in one way that nero and CDRWin are equal when it comes to 1:1 copying of highly protected games, but the programs have both their advantages and disadvantages.

Nero is really great for any other application (such as audio and compiled music disc and selfmade data discs), but when it comes to psx reading, CDRWin is more stable than nero. This comes mainly because CDRWin does not only copies any psx disc with a false toc (it's an option within nero->it interprets, cdrwin just duplicates), but also it has no prob at all with tracks < 4sec. Nero does have probs with these tracks, and refuses to read some psx discs.
CDRWin has the great advantage that its images can be patched, (both trainers, copy prot's and pal/ntsc) and nero's images can't, this is a big plus for CDRWin

[WWFRVD]

well i used a box of 10 cdrs from lidl or aldi, unbranded, about £3.99 ( from one of the cheap scandanavian stores) and they worked fine.
i also burned with nero and never had a problem.i used the tutorial from
www.psxcopyworld.co.uk

i think thats the right addy.

[psibob84]

4 quid for unbranded is a ripoff

[420]

king nero-

OK, few things to note:

- you implied that CDRWin can duplicate the protection on PSX games, whereas it cannot If it could, there wouldn't be a need for release groups to patch most of their releases at all.

- you stated that Nero cannot do tracks under 4 seconds - also incorrect. the problem with burning tracks less than 4 seconds is more frequently than not related to your hardware (burner) not your software. however ... I have the same problem with the short audio tracks as you do but for me, it occurs with CDRWin, but NOT with Nero. so saying that Nero cannot burn these tracks is 100% incorrect also.

- The issue with the TOC makes absolutely no difference at all regarding PSX. The games will work perfectly when burned with either piece of software.

- In my experience, Nero is more stable than CDRWin, not the other way around. I believe this is a burner-compatibility issue for both us. It would be incorrect for you to say CDRWin is more stable (or for me to say the opposite) - it simply isn't true. As for reading capabilities - CDRWin has failed for me more than ANY other burning program when it comes to scratched discs (yes, software matters too people) - again, different people with different experiences.

- As for the issues with patching ... yes, CDRWin does have THAT benfit over Nero - but MANY other programs will allow you to rip a CD to BIN/CUE format. Also, if we are talking about downloaded games in BIN/CUE format, Nero can burn these just as well as CDRWin, whereas there is no way that CDRWin can burn a Nero image. And ... if you want to make your backup directly from an original, you would use CloneCD (assuming compatibility) - not Nero or CDRWin ... it would be foolish to do so.

Final word ... My opinion: Nero is a MUCH better program than CDRWin for PSX copying as well as anything else - but that's just my opinion based on experience. Facts: as listed above. Don't fabricate your own "facts" based solely on your experience. People come here to ask questions so they can learn - they'll never learn a thing if they keep getting fed misinformation like what you replied with. :(


p.s. don't take any of this personally, I'm just trying to set the record straight so people get the FACTS not our opinions. ;)

[king nero]

420, i like this as much as you do, and i don't take any of this personally :D don't think that. I hope you don't mind if I try to sort some things out:

- you implied that CDRWin can duplicate the protection on PSX games, whereas it cannot If it could, there wouldn't be a need for release groups to patch most of their releases at all.
-->I didn't say that, I even stated cdrwin has the advantage of applying patches. You're right about that last part.

- the tracks <4 sec
-->I have proper hardware, but i believe you when you say that it is more a hardware than a software issue. I'm not going to argue with that. But i noticed CDRWin doesn't make problems about these tracks, when using correct settings (was it subcode analysis? i don't remember, i changed from cdrwin to nero some years ago)(which proves as well i prefer nero, as i don't use it any more).

The issue with the TOC makes absolutely no difference at all regarding PSX. The games will work perfectly when burned with either piece of software
--> I didn't say it wouldn't work, I only mentioned you have to check the option in nero. but that protection is no longer used i think, as it is too easy to overcome

-stability
--> ever tried to copy an audio disc with cdrwin? I tried it once, all i heard on the copy was noise and cracks. I don't blame it on stability, but as general issue. I know as well only few people have encountered this malfunction.
about nero, which is under normal conditions very stable ( as it never crashes) but when you misplace jumpers (master/slave position) nero doesn't recognise what it should. I know it's my mistake, i should have set the jumpers correct, but cdrwin went on copying.

- but MANY other programs will allow you to rip a CD to BIN/CUE format. Also, if we are talking about downloaded games in BIN/CUE format, Nero can burn these just as well as CDRWin, whereas there is no way that CDRWin can burn a Nero image. And ... if you want to make your backup directly from an original, you would use CloneCD (assuming compatibility) - not Nero or CDRWin ... it would be foolish to do so.

-->I used these proggies in ages clone didn't exist. So don't compare. Nowadays, you're completely right. I use clone as well. Far more betta than nero (but only when it comes to video game backup and pc games - not audio or selfcompiled data)

and finally - i didn't fed any misinformation - and i didn't stated these were facts as well - i was just giving people my opinion so they could think the whole thing over - like they should. Never rely on anyone's advice, people, try and learn yourself. but giving them something to think about is worth considering

I am waiting for a reply, 420 ;)

[420]

lol well, now that's all cleared up, we agree on most things ... see, what I was saying is that when i try to burn < 4sec audio tracks with CDRWin, I get an error from CDRWin saying that it can't burn them but with Nero is works fine ... whereas you seem to have the opposite problem. as for the jumpers, well like u said, your fault. hehe I never misplaced a jumper so I never had that problem ;)

anyway, I don't completely dislike CDRWin, it's a decent proggy IMO ... but I only use it when I have to. Currently, I have Nero, CDRWin, CloneCD, BlindRead/Write, & Fireburner (old version b/c the new one sux) installed on my system. :D

[king nero]

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have a great time burning y'all

[kgen3001]

hey where can u get the traxdata black bottom CDR's do u need a modchip to use if u have the traxdata black bottom CDR's

[420]

kgen-

yes, you'd still need a mod no matter what CDs u use. actually, it has been my experience that the black-bottom CD-Rs are usually crap.

[kyle5077]

I use Memorex and TDK. Never used the legendary Verbs.

[NateV]

It's not so much the CDRs as it is your hardware. If you've got a good burner and your psx's laser is in good condition, then you can pretty much use whatever you want, but, as 420 said, stay away from "silvers". If your psx or burner is a little worn, then go for something a little more expensive, like TDK or Verbatim, the two most reliable brands out there. Also, don't forget to defrag every now and then, a fragmented HD can cause skipping audio/video during gameplay.