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dean023 Nov 19, 2003 04:15 PM

HD Advice plz [Packard bell; 336hz; win98]
my pc is quite old about 4 yrs and has 366 processor with 6 gig HD and i was wondering if i could upgrade to a bigger Hd (not loads just another 10gig?)

1. is this possible?
2 .easy to do? as the most ive done is install a new dvd writer
3. what cost are we looking at? and is it cost effective or would i be better to forget it and buy a new system which i cant afford at mo?
4. where's best place to buy at best price?

cheers for any info it would be very much appreciated


Virgin San Nov 20, 2003 12:20 AM

1) In principle it would be possible to upgrade.
2) In principle (again) its very similar to installing a dvd writer or any other IDE device
3) Cost is a tricky question - you can get a 20Gb hard drive for around 30 quid, you might have a look on ebay as well for a really cheap deal but be aware that you may well pick up a drive near the end of its life that way so its risky.

Now, I say "in principle" a lot because of the age of your motherboard - its [i]possible[/i] that it will be able to recognise a bigger hard disk without you upgrading the BIOS (this can be done by downloading a BIOS upgrade from your mobo manufacturers website, they post instructions too) - which means you will probably have to identify your motherboard make.

If, as you say, you can't afford a new system at the moment then i guess it would be worth a try, theres plenty of people here who can help with BIOS upgrades etc [b]if[/b] it proves necessary - so I say go for it!

dean023 Nov 20, 2003 01:26 AM

virgin san many thx

i'll dig out spec

can you add a second external drive?

Virgin San Nov 20, 2003 01:30 AM

Do I take it from that question that the DVD writer you added is external then? In which case putting in a hard drive is more complicated than that as it would require you to open the case and stick the drive in, get the cables and jumper settings right. DOn't be put off though, its still very doable - I don't think adding an external HD is really a financial efficient solution for you.

nightheart Nov 20, 2003 09:36 AM

I'm gonna disagree with virgan san here, not on the tech. part of it, but the is it worth it part. A new 10 gig hd is expensive when you figure out how much your paying a gig, versus how much you pay for a gig for say 200. Also buying a used 10 gig hd, it will probably be rather old and unless you know the person your buying it from, there is a decent chance of getting ripped. Personally, I'd save your money and buy a new system, when you can afford it, and either make one yourself or have someone else build it for you.

An increase of 4 gigs isn't much, unless your really desperate for 2 cents............

Virgin San Nov 20, 2003 04:03 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by nightheart [/i]
An increase of 4 gigs isn't much, unless your really desperate for 2 cents............ [/B][/QUOTE]

I would have thought it would be a 10 + 6 upgrade rather than a -6 + 10. That would be my suggestion to deano if you haven't considered that already.

I agree that buying a small HD is less cost effective than buying a big one. Something that the buyer should take into account however (and something that is often overlooked in forums when giving advice) is the fact that if a person only wants 10 Gb and a) sees no need for more in future or b) is planning to upgrade his whole system soon, then buying 200 Gig would be like buying a bulldozer to weed the garden.

Thanks for reiterating my point on the risk of getting old drives "near the end of its life" from ebay.

nightheart Nov 21, 2003 09:36 AM

Hey, i bulldoze my garden, just to drive the wife nuts :). Anyway, my only other point is, unless money is very tight, you really can never have to much space, and a 40 gig drive cost only a few dollars more than a 10. Then you also get into, what does the mobo support, can it be flashed, etc. etc., as you stated. I haven't seen a "new" 10 gig drive for sale for awhile, and the 20's are like 5 dollars less than the 40's. (Haven't really looked much, to be honest, but anyway). So i say save the money now, and get a complete upgrade soon.

Also running a DVD writer on those specs has to be very slow and a little iffy, anyway. I think the minimum specs for a pioneer 105 are like 700 mhz and 256 RAM, something like that, anyway. (mostly for the software)

My 2 cents only, yes it can be done, but is it worth it in the long run? Your PC, your choice.

Virgin San Nov 21, 2003 10:07 PM

Yes, I agree - it looks like time to save some pennies and join the 21st century :) If money is really tight you can still pick up a budget base unit for under 250 quid.

Harry O Nov 22, 2003 10:42 PM

While it may seem more financially prudent to purchase very large drives it is often a mistake when the buyer realizes that their system can't recognize the drive. Sometimes you can find a BIOS update and sometimes you can't and sometimes what you thought was the flash to end all flashes really is and the systems ends up dead.

nightheart Jul 20, 2009 07:51 PM

wow. Back from the dead, and all it is spam.

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