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Old Oct 01, 2002, 03:47 PM
DTUK DTUK is offline
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Default I have HP Biro BA400 with a 66mhz FSB 433hmz celeron and want to upgrade, can I use..

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a FSB 100mhz chip, somin like a 1.3ghz celeron socket 370, my socket is 370 too but im somone said i couldnt upgrade to this chip because my mobo only supports 66mhz chips, is this the case or can i use the 100mhz chips and risk overheating or somin. Can anyone explain.

Thanks alot

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Old Oct 01, 2002, 08:58 PM
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download sisoft sandra and post all the info for the motherboard.
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Old Oct 01, 2002, 09:21 PM
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The 1.3 is definitely a no, maybe if your motherboard has a 100mhz fsb setting you could go to 1ghz, but with it being a HP i would guess not. The only way for sure is to find make of motherboard and go to website, use SANDRA as jasev says.
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Old Oct 02, 2002, 12:39 PM
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get your specs from sandra and post them here as i think your in luck as you have the Intel 810E chipset which can run the faster processors,but the only spec of your pc model was the one with the 800cpu in it so we wont know for sure until you post as they may have put different motherboards in the 433 and 800 setups.
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Old Oct 02, 2002, 06:30 PM
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Sorry for this but I wasn't sure about SANDRA so I got someone to send me info from ba400 manual from HP site(i couldnt downlaod it myself no acrobat, and that was taking hours to downlaod). Im just gonna post everything, most isn't probably relevant but I'm sure whats what:

Microtower Brios hp brio ba400 5-1
5
5 hp brio ba400
models and accessories
Product
Number
Hard
Drive
Video
Controller
Std.
RAM
Multimedia1
Modem/
LAN
OS2 Software3
Models with Intel Celeron Processor PPGA4 package (socket 370) and
66MHz System Bus Speed
400MHz / 128k (CPL: 10/99 )
D9713A
4.3 GB
IDE
Integrated
Direct AGP
64 MB no no
W98 no D9727A
32 MB
32X CDROM
56K PCI
Modem
433MHz / 128k (CPL: 10/99 )
D8932T
4.3 GB
IDE
Integrated
Direct AGP
32 MB 48X CDROM
no
W98 no
D8934A 32 MB
no
D8934A
#G01
64 MB
D8934T 32 MB
D8935A
32 MB D8935B
D8935T
D8937T 64 MB
48X CDROM
D8938A
32 MB 10/100
Base-T
LAN
D8939A 8.4 GB 64 MB
48X CDROM
&
speakers
56K USB
Modem
D9714B
4.3 GB
IDE
32 MB
no no
D9715B 48X CDROM
56K USB
D9717A
64 MB
no
no D9718A 48X CDROM
hp brio ba400
5-2 hp brio ba400 Microtower Brios

hp brio ba400
5-6 hp brio ba400 Microtower Brios
5
supported accessories
32-MB kit 32-bit SDRAM, 100 MHz non-ECC main memory module D6501A/T
32-MB kit 32-bit SDRAM, 100 MHz non-ECC main memory module
(pack of 20)
D6504A/T
64-MB kit 32-bit SDRAM, 133 MHz non-ECC main memory module P1536A
64-MB kit 32-bit SDRAM, 133 MHz non-ECC main memory module
(pack of 20)
P1540A
128-MB, 32-bit SDRAM, 133 MHz non-ECC main memory module P1537A
256-MB, 32-bit SDRAM, 133 MHz non-ECC main memory module P1538A
Input Devices
HP Multimedia Keyboard C4742A/B
HP Windows Keyboard C4735A
HP Standard Two-Button Mouse C3751B
HP Scrolling Mouse C4736A/B
HP Cordless Scrolling Mouse C4740A/B
Monitors
All current HP Monitors (see the HP Monitors Service Handbook)
Mass Storage1
4.3-GB IDE hard disk D8371A
6.4-GB IDE hard disk D8372A
8.4-GB IDE hard disk D8373A
10-GB IDE hard disk D9623A
13.5-GB IDE hard disk D8092A
15-GB IDE hard disk D7517A
HP ZIP Internal 100 Drive D6650A\B
Other
Air Flow Guide2 D8961E
hp brio ba400
Microtower Brios hp brio ba400 5-7
5
Multimedia / Audio Accessories
48 Max IDE CD-ROM drive D9444A
48 Max IDE CD-ROM drive (pack of 10) D9445A
HP 4X 4X 24X IDE CD-Writer Plus P1546A
HP 8X DVD-ROM drive D7521A\B
HP Amplified Speakers by Labtec - 10WRMS D4545A
HP Amplified Speakers by Labtec - 4WRMS D6861A
HP Amplified Speakers by Labtec - 4WRMS (pack of 4) D6860A
HP Standard headset D8387A
Data Communications and LAN Adapter Boards
HP 10/100 3Com 3C905C-TX, 10/100BT Ethernet card D7522A/B
HP 10/100 3Com 3C905C-TX, 10/100BT Ethernet card (pack of 10) D7523A/B
HP 10/100 Intel PRO/100+, 10/100BT Management adapter D7506A
HP 10/100 Intel PRO/100+, 10/100BT Management adapter (pack of 10) D7507A
HP 10/100 Base-T PCI Ethernet adapter D7508A/B
HP 10/100 Base-T PCI Network Card (pack of 10) D7509A/B
HP USB Hub Accessory Kit D6804A
HP 56K V90 PCI Internal Modem D7519A
HP 56K V90 USB External Fax Modem D8384A/B
HP Security
HP Protect Tools 2000 Smart Card Kit D8436B/A
N.B. For manuals and documentation refer to the Brio Support web where PDF files are
available for download at ***********.hp.com/briosupport
1. The hard disk drives may be used only as a replacement for the primary hard disk drive.
2. This is for the 466MHz and 500MHz models only
hp brio ba400
5-8 hp brio ba400 Microtower Brios
5
system board, BIOS, and memory
Processor: Celeron PPGA
(Plastic Pin Grid Array)
package with Zero
Insertion Force (ZIF)
socket.
Main Memory:
Two DIMM sockets which support
up to a maximum of 512 MB.
Install 32 MB, 64 MB, 128 MB or 256
MB 100 MHz SDRAM modules.
System Board jumper configurations:
See the diagram on the next page.
hp brio ba400
Microtower Brios hp brio ba400 5-9
5
manually clearing CMOS and passwords on a brio ba400
1 Change the position of switch 1 to ON to clear both CMOS and passwords.
If you want to clear passwords only, set switch 2 to ON.
2 Replace the cover and reconnect the power cord.
3 Switch on the PC.
4 Shut down the PC and set switch 1 to OFF. Set switch 2 to OFF if you reset
it earlier instead of 1.
BIOS History
For the latest BIOS and the flasher utility program refer to the HP World Wide
Web site.
***********.hp.com/go/briosupport/
Switch block
brio ba400
system board
hp brio ba400
5-10 hp brio ba400 Microtower Brios
5
part numbers
1
2
3
4
5
6
7 8
9
10
11
14 15
16
17
12
hp brio ba400
Microtower Brios hp brio ba400 5-11
5
parts list for hp brio ba400 pcs
Item Description Repl.
Part Number
Exchange
Part Number
1 Chassis assembly1 5064-7483 -
2 Front bezel assembly2 5064-7482 -
3 Power supply D9095-63010
Power cord See Appendix for
full list
4 HDD cable 5183-9425 -
5 CD-ROM cable 5183-9426 -
6 FDD cable 5183-9427 -
7 Floppy disk drive (bezel-less) D2035-60391 -
8 IDE hard disk drive3
4.3GB
6.4GB
8.4GB
10 GB
13.5GB
15 GB
-
-
-
-
D9066-69001
D9068-69001
D8372-69001
D9067-69001
D9069-69001
D9443-69001
D9805-69001
D8998-69005
D9803-69001
9 48  Max IDE CD-ROM drive &
4X Max IDE CD-Writer plus CD-RW
8X DVD-ROM
-
-
D4389-63021
C4465-69001
D4388-69002
10 CD-ROM to audio connector cable 5182-1857 -
11 Scrolling mouse C4736-60101 -
Standard keyboard5 C4739-601xx4 -
12 Battery type CR2032 1420-0356 -
14 LAN Card -
HP 10/100BT PCI Ethernet adapter
HP 3COM Fast Etherlink XL 3C905-TX PCI
NIC
HP Intel Pro/100+ Management adapter
5065-2523
5064-7429
5065-1210
hp brio ba400
5-12 hp brio ba400 Microtower Brios
5
15 Telephone Cable See Appendix for
full list
16 HP Amplified Speakers - 4WRMS
US D6861-63101 -
UK D6861-63113 -
Japan D6861-63124 -
Europe D6861-63142 -
Australia D6861-63143 -
HP Amplified Speakers - 10WRMS
US D4545-63101 -
UK D4545-63113 -
Europe D4545-63107 -
17 System board See PCs system board parts list
185 USB Modem
US
EUROPE
Australia
5064-9789
5064-9790
5065-1204
195 Air Flow Guide 5042-4437
205 HP Serial interface device 5064-9776
21 Recovery CD-ROM (Win 98 and Win 95)
Recovery CD-ROM (Windows NT 4.0)
Recovery CD-ROM (Windows NT 2000 -
English only)
5011-6668-xx6
5011-6669-xx6
5970-0220-EN
1. Includes chassis frame, top cover, front bezel with ON/OFF circuitry, FDD & HDD frames, I/
O Plate.
2. Includes front bezel with ON/OFF circuitry, and two 5.25 inch fillers.
3. For optional disk drive information, see the Accessory Service Handbook - 5969-1945.
4. Where xx is the code for your national keyboard (see the Accessory Service Handbook).
5. Not shown
6. xx in the part number = country suffix e.g. EN for English
parts list for hp brio ba400 pcs
Item Description Repl.
Part Number
Exchange
Part Number
hp brio ba400
Microtower Brios hp brio ba400 5-13
5
system board parts list for hp brio ba400 pcs
Description Repl.
Part Number
Exchange
Part Number
1 System board:
Brio BA 400 system board D8930- 60001
D8930- 60003
D8930-690011
D8930- 69003
1. This board must not be used with Coppermine processors i.e. processors above 533MHz
2 Processors (socket 370):
Intel Celeron 400/66 128KB L2 cache 5064-9130
Intel Celeron 433/66 128KB L2 cache D8117-63001 -
Intel Celeron 466/66 128KB L2 cache D8118-63001 -
Intel Celeron 500/66 128KB L2 cache 5065-0477 -
Intel Celeron 533/66 128KB L2 cache D8748-63001
Intel Celeron 566/66 128KB L2 cache D9903-63001
Intel Celeron 600/66 128KB L2 cache D9904-63001
Thermal interface material 6040-0939 -
3 Heatsink 1205-1259(Cel 400-500)
5065-1216 (Cel 400-533)
5065-1296
-
4 Main memory modules:
1  32MB, 100 MHz non-ECC SDRAM D6501-63001 -
1  64MB, 100 MHz non-ECC SDRAM D6502-63001 D6502-69001
1  128MB, 100 MHz non-ECC SDRAM D6503-63001 D6503-69001
1  256MB, 100 MHz non-ECC SDRAM D9525-63001 D9525-69001
5 Battery type CR2032: 1420-0356
1
2
3
4
5
hp brio ba400
5-14 hp brio ba400 Microtower Brios




Thanks for any help, i really appericate it.

cheers
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Old Oct 02, 2002, 09:40 PM
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According to the link you gave there is a bios upgrade to support the coppermine processors (533a upwards) You would have to download the bios and load it, it is a bit scary first time, if you havent done it before, but if you follow the instructions everything will be ok. But still unless you know the exact model of the motherboard cant say how high above 533 you could go maybe you you can ask hp what the highest processor it would take if you upgrade the bios.
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