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Old Oct 21, 2002, 07:06 PM
Mister Sagi Mister Sagi is offline
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Not enough people actually bought enough games for them to stay in the console hardware business because of it playing "backups" without a modchip, so people would just download and burn.
Old Oct 22, 2002, 04:08 AM
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[i]Originally posted by racketboyjoe [/i]
And just to let you know, I'm not just some Sega "fanboy". I'm actually looking into getting a (heaven forbid, I know) Nintendo Gamecube. [/B]
With that bracketed comment, you seem to cancel your denial of being a Sega fanboy out.
Old Oct 22, 2002, 08:41 AM
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[i]Originally posted by ragingdevil [/i]

With that bracketed comment, you seem to cancel your denial of being a Sega fanboy out. [/B]
I was being sarcastic. Most Sega guys don't like Nintendo.
It's a joke. Laugh.
Old Oct 22, 2002, 12:28 PM
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In the context of what I was talking about, a "killer title" would be a game that is unique and has great gameplay.
I think most people would agree that this is a very narrow definition of a "killer title"...and for your information, "cult favorites" and "true classics" typically go hand in hand...the simple fact is that none of the titles you mentioned were hits with the mainstream...they didn't push the Saturn into new homes (w/ the possible exception of Nights)...remember, we're talking about Sega's commercial failure here, not whether or not they made good games ...

Well that was the point I was trying to make. The Saturn was a better MACHINE, not a better commercial success. (I started my point in reference to the statement, "becoz sega can not make a top console like the ps2 2 save there lifes ") The fact is overly obvious that the PSX was a bigger success.
Well then, what's your justification for calling the Saturn a better MACHINE then?

First of all the Capcom titles alone are enough to keep me happy. I love 2D fighters.
That's you...but do you really think this is sufficient evidence to call the Saturn a better console?

Also, there was a little company named SNK. I know they didn't make many US titles, but the imports were great. (King of Fighters, Metal Slug, etc)
Ah yes, SNK...let's think real hard here...the last Metal Slug title on psx, did it play better on the psx or on the Saturn? Here, I'll help you out...the answer is psx, since the Saturn was long dead and buried ...

I'm not trying to start up any arguements, I just like to state my opinions.
No harm, no foul one's arguing here, far as I can tell...I like stating my opinions as well...I just think you're going to have a tough sell saying the Saturn was a better machine than the psx, that's all...

Old Oct 22, 2002, 01:02 PM
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You seem to be missing my point...

Ok lemme sum up my arguement:

The Saturn has much better 2D capabilities. Would you not agree, jags?

The Saturn's 3D capabilities vs the PSX's is pretty close, but both are pretty good. The may both have their strong points but I don't think either blows the other away.

As I stated before, looking back at the 32-bit era, the 2D capabilites were more mature -- 3D gaming, in general, still had a while to go. Therefore, I think the 2D capabilities should be weighed a little heavier.

By my conclusions, the Saturn was a better machine. Other people's conclusions may be different, but my goal was to prove to our quick-to-make-fanboy-statements friend, skillfully, to be wrong.

I'm sure Sega could make a better console than Sony. When looking at past systems, you have to remember that Sony's systems had about a year's worth of technology to separate them. The Dreamcast came out in 1999 -- well before the PS2. And as far as I can tell, the PS2, doesn't seem like it's that much better of a system than the DC (other than it can play DVDs).
Old Oct 22, 2002, 01:36 PM
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SEGA arent bankrupt, but i figure SEGA lost on the console wars because of very poor timing. They had a potential goldmine - the DC.

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