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Old May 16, 2003, 03:32 PM
Slick6 Slick6 is offline
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Angry Start-Up Problems [Homemade; ; winXP]

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Sorry but this may be long winded. I was running MIRC and apparently my computer tried to restart on its own. My connection is a Direcway satellite. On restart I got the error message "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOW\SYSYEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM". I have a dual boot system with 98SE and XP Home. I can start 98, but not XP. My XP is on a NTFS file system so I can not access it from 98. I went to Microsoft Knowledge Base and found article #307545 to help with my problem, but it states that this article assumes that the system is on a FAT32 file system. Please if anyone could help me fix this problem and tell me what caused it.
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Old May 16, 2003, 03:59 PM
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The XP side is basicly hosed. When you get that message, 9 out of 10 times it is because the registry became corrupt. Upon startup, Windows can only load 18 megs of registry. Normally this is ok but something in the registry (usually the current control set) starts to replicate and doesn't delete the older sets like it should. the registry grows in size until it is larger then 18 megs. After that, it's all over. A relaod of XP is in order.

Now as far as Win9X not reading NTFS, if you have data you need to retrive from the XP side, look here ***********.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfswin98.shtml
you can read NTFS from Win98 and get your data.
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Old May 16, 2003, 04:05 PM
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Press F8 while loading WIndows XP to get to the startup menu. Then try the "Last Known Good Configuration" option.

Assuming that doesn't work, if you have a bootable Windows XP install CD, boot with it and follow the menu options to get to the recovery console. Then follow the directions in article 307545. The recovery console does work on NTFS.
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Old May 16, 2003, 04:34 PM
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The F8 option did not work I get the same message. As for as the recovery console I can get to it but not sure what to do once I get to it. Also if ne1 could tell me what cause this. Could it be a virus or something because all this happened on its own. Thank all of ya for your help
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Old May 16, 2003, 05:28 PM
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I beleive I just told you what caused this. it is not a virus, it is a registry that has grown larger then 18 megs and Windows can't read it anymore. It isn't caused by a virus, it's a known problem with Win2k and XP.

Here is the full Technet article

This article was previously published under Q269075
IMPORTANT: This article contains information about modifying the registry. Before you modify the registry, make sure to back it up and make sure that you understand how to restore the registry if a problem occurs. For information about how to back up, restore, and edit the registry, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
256986 Description of the Microsoft Windows Registry

SYMPTOMS
When you restart your Microsoft Windows 2000-based computer, you may receive the following error message:
Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM.ced
You may also receive the following error message:
System hive error
CAUSE
This behavior can occur if one of the following conditions is true:
A Promise Technology, Inc. ATA66 PCI controller card is installed in the computer. This issue typically occurs during the Windows 2000 installation process.
The System hive in the registry is damaged or missing.

Windows 2000 may be unable to load the registry if it is too large. This issue can occur when a process writes too much data to the System subkey in the registry. The System subkey is designed to contain only the information that is necessary to boot the computer.

Computers that are based on Intel architecture or ARC (RISC) architecture can only use 16 megabytes (MB) of memory at this stage of the boot process. The System registry subkey has to share the 16 MB with the loader, kernel, HAL, and boot drivers. In some instances, the size of the System subkey may be 13 MB or larger.
RESOLUTION
WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

To resolve this issue, use the appropriate method.
Remove the Promise Technology ATA66 PCI Controller
If this issue occurs during the Windows 2000 installation process and a Promise ATA66 controller is installed in your computer, remove the Promise Technology ATA66 PCI controller card, check your BIOS settings to make sure that the IDE controller on your motherboard is enabled, and then run Windows 2000 Setup again.
Restore a Backup of the System Hive
IMPORTANT: This procedure will not work on an active directory domain controller, because if you use the REPAIR folder system hive, then you are no longer a domain controller.

Use the Repair Console tool to replace the backup copy of the System hive from the repair folder. If the Repair Console tool is not installed on your computer, you can run it from the Emergency Repair process:
Use the Windows 2000 CD-ROM or the Windows 2000 Startup disk to start the computer.
When you see the "Welcome to Setup" message, press R for "repair."
Press C to run the Recovery Console tool.
Select the installation that you want to repair.
Type the administrator password.

If the computer is a domain controller, type the password for Directory Services Restore Mode when you are prompted to do so.For additional information about the Recovery Console tool, click the article numbers below to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
239803 How to Change the Recovery Console Administrator Password on a Domain Controller

223301 Protection of the Administrator Account in the Offline SAM

At the Recovery Console command prompt, type the following commands, pressing ENTER after you type each command:
cd system32\config
ren system system.old
ren system.alt systemalt.old

If you have run the Emergency Repair Disk Wizard from Windows Backup and Recovery tools, copy the backup of the System hive from the %SystemRoot%\Repair\Regback folder.

If you have not run the Emergency Repair Disk Wizard, copy the default System hive from the %SystemRoot%\Repair folder.

IMPORTANT: You need to restore the most recent copy of the System hive. You also need to reinstall any hardware device drivers or programs that run as services that you installed since the last time that you updated your Emergency Repair Disk.

To copy the default System hive, type the following command, and then press ENTER:
copy c:\winnt\repair\system c:\winnt\system32\config

To copy the System hive that was backed up the last time that you ran the Emergency Repair Disk Wizard, type the following command, and then press ENTER:
copy c:\winnt\repair\regback\system c:\winnt\system32\config

At the command prompt, type exit, and then press ENTER to restart your computer.
Reduce the Size of the System Hive
If a large number of resources are shared on the computer, the registry may become too large. To resolve this issue, use the following steps.
Start registry editor (Regedt32.exe).
Locate and click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\LanmanServer\Share

On the Registry menu, click Save Key.
In the File name box, type Shares.new, and then click Save.
Locate and click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

On the Registry menu, click Load Hive.
In the list of files, click the System.old file, and then click Open.
In the Key Name box type System.old, and then click OK.
Locate and click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select

Note the setting for the Default value.
Locate and click the following key in the registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System.old\ControlSetx\Services \LanmanServer\Shares

where x is the number that you noted in step 8.
On the Registry menu, click Save Key.
In the File name box, type Shares.old, and then click Save.
Restore the Shares.new key to the System.old registry hive:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System.old\ControlSetx\Services \LanmanServer\Shares

Click the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System.old key.
On the Registry menu, click Unload Hive.
Quit Registry Editor.
Restart the computer to the Recovery Console.
At the command prompt, type the following lines, pressing ENTER after you type each line:
ren system system.org
ren system.old system

At the command prompt, type exit, and then press ENTER to restart the computer.
MORE INFORMATION
For additional information about how to obtain Windows XP Setup boot disks, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
310994 Obtaining Windows XP Setup Boot Disks

The third-party products that are discussed in this article are manufactured by companies that are independent of Microsoft. Microsoft makes no warranty, implied or otherwise, regarding the performance or reliability of these products.
 

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