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Old Feb 20, 2002, 07:44 PM
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max 2200 didnt do anything to help...

You think it could be my DVD player and the variable rate?

testing 352x480 full with CBR

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Old Feb 20, 2002, 08:04 PM
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Nope still jerky... it will display, but it must be the 23.976 fps issue like you said...

Maybe ill mess with it more on future rips... Im gonna kick this one off and go to bed...

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Old Feb 21, 2002, 03:25 AM
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this is how i converted my 23fps mpegs to 29fps to resolve the stuttering playback issue. if you feel motivated enuf, try it with a 10-15min test clip.

ENCODE 1
1) bring up TMPGEnc (w/mpeg2) and load your source audio/video
2) load DVD/NTSC template, then load unlock template
3) click Setting and make the following changes
Audio/44.1khz 128kbps
GOPStructure/1,5,2,1 (top to bottom), uncheck all other boxes
Advanced/arrange method="Center(custom size)" 344x480
Video/size=352x480, framerate=29fps, ratecontrol=CQ_VBR 0-3000, encodemode=noninterlace, motion search=normal
4) make sure ur output aspect ratio is correct (4:3?), and encode to an mpeg2

ENCODE 2
1) use dvd2avi on new mpeg2 to create d2v and demux the mpeg audio
2) load d2v in TMPGEnc as video source
3) load the demux'd audio file as audio source
4) encode to mpeg1, 352x480, 29fps, CQ_VBR 0-1900,
audio 44.1@128kbps, "MPEG1 VideoCD (nonstandard)",
video arrange="Center", motion search=normal

note: use plain old Center for video arrange method

now burn to VCD and try it on ur standalone

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Old Feb 21, 2002, 06:22 AM
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hmmmm... this sounds interesting...

you were able to do this w/o an audio sync problem?
I have been leaving the filter checked for "do not change fps" and that cured my sync problems. I dont think I will be able to use this filter when converting to 29.97... but if it works... what the hey right?

is this the method that you used for planet of the apes? that was a stunning clip you sent...

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Old Feb 21, 2002, 10:10 AM
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yup, no synch problems. when encoding to 29fps mpeg2 from a 23fps source, ur essentially telling TMPGEnc to use 3:2 pulldown and actually create and insert the additional frames to make it a 29fps video, instead of just setting the 3:2 pulldown flag in the video stream for 29fps on playback.

that apes clip was 352x480 at 23fps, though. it encoded/compressed well enough to get the first 74 minutes on one 80min disc and the rest of the movie on a second disc. i was also able to add the 26 minute "making of" featurette on that second disc as well.

i luv using the CQ_VBR rate control mode for my VCDs now, especially on widescreen material. since discovering it, i stopped using CBR altogether.
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Old Feb 21, 2002, 12:59 PM
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Damn... I cant wait to get home to check this out...
I did a test on a new movie... practical majic... I did it CBR, 29fps, 352x240 with a sharpen filter on it... I wanted to see how it would look...

when i get home I will play with your settings... If it creates fine with no audio sync probs I will try the other vid sized and the CQ_VBR... I would like the additional compression too
 

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